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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 27, 2024 9:25:38 GMT
Of 1984. Yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a particular release. But some of my favourite music ever was released that year, so I'm picking a cross-section of genuine personal faves I love more than life itself, for you to comment on and slag off.
Legendary Pink Dots - The Lovers (Part 1)
Alien Sex Fiend - E.S.T. (Trip to the Moon)
Metallica - Trapped Under Ice
Fad Gadget - Ad Nausum
I'll add my comments later...
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Post by adamcoan on Feb 27, 2024 10:17:53 GMT
No Manuel Göttsching or skinny puppy ?
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 27, 2024 10:54:20 GMT
and no E2-E4?
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Post by fearlessfreap on Feb 27, 2024 12:02:43 GMT
Nor Thingfish?
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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 27, 2024 13:25:37 GMT
It's only four tracks, and E2-E4 is for speccy nerds. It's got too much cred already.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Feb 27, 2024 14:01:31 GMT
Oh well..I'll have a go.
LPS - A quite diverting slice of moody Euro balladry. Reminded me of 'Breakfast' in terms of feel. Nice use of piano and violin, but the song itself is a little too subdued and diffident to really interest me. 6/10 ASF - A really boring attempt at industrial disco sleaze. Others did this sort of thing much better. Of no interest at all. 1/10 Metallica - I can't judge this really as it's far too removed from 'my thing'. I don't have the ears for it. FG - A pretty ugly and discordant exercise in theatrical posturing. It's different I suppose..2/10.
Sorry DF!
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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 27, 2024 14:46:23 GMT
Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on! No worries, glad you gave 'em a spin and a comment.
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Post by fonz on Feb 27, 2024 15:18:00 GMT
Even the lamest track off RtL shits all over anything else on that shortlist
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Post by rayge on Feb 27, 2024 16:14:37 GMT
LPD - well, you already converted me to this band - hadn't ever heard (of) them before The Refuge. Remind me of Piano Magic in being an 'experimental' or 'underground' band that have a remarkably accessible, and a variety of always interesting sounds and styles (you are aware of intelligence at work, rather than formulaic copying of past styles), and often pack a melodic punch. ASF are the only act here I never really got into - tbh, I think their visual image, name and Goff affiliations put me off a bit. This is fine, though, although the vocals don't really live up to the sound the band creates (and when it comes to exraterrestrial drug-themed pop, I still prefer The Martin Hop ). Metallica are of course, awesome, from the squiggly amphetamine guitar to the hyperactive tempos and edgy vocals. What metal should have been about from the start, and a thousand times more exciting and interesting than Sabbaff. An absolute blast, in every sense of the word. Mr Tovey surely was a pioneer, although you followed his trajectory further and longer than I did. This track is much more about the words than the other three: there's a esense that this is a recitation accompanied by some decorative flourishes and disorientating sounds rather than an attempt to create a soundscape with a vocal performance stitched/integrated into it. I'd have voted for all four if I could, but as I couldn't, I went for Metallica.
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Post by Sneelock on Feb 27, 2024 16:25:21 GMT
I can't see the last one. unless it's prettier than the L.P.Dots or rockier than the Metallica, I don't suppose it matters.
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Post by DayoRemix on Feb 27, 2024 19:06:16 GMT
Would have gone for "Collapsing New People" and "Hee Haw", but all of it is good from both..
Metallica: Back when they had some speed and were probably ON some speed..
Tried with the Pink Dots and they just don't click for me..Seems they should, but they don't
A wonderful artifact:
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 27, 2024 20:48:52 GMT
Metallica are of course, awesome, from the squiggly amphetamine guitar to the hyperactive tempos and edgy vocals. What metal should have been about from the start, and a thousand times more exciting and interesting than Sabbaff. An absolute blast, in every sense of the word. Well I'll be!
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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 27, 2024 21:55:36 GMT
Would have gone for "Collapsing New People" and "Hee Haw", but all of it is good from both.. Metallica: Back when they had some speed and were probably ON some speed.. Tried with the Pink Dots and they just don't click for me..Seems they should, but they don't A wonderful artifact: Collapsing New People is too obvious a choice, it's always that or Ricky's Hand with Fad Gadget. I love the Jaws-threatening cello and the vocal performance on this one, and it's so lyrical. With ASF, it's always between EST or RIP for me, this era was superb, they had such a varied sound and a real presence in the vocals despite the lack of vocal ability.
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Post by loveless on Feb 28, 2024 4:21:06 GMT
I listened to all four.
LPD was really lovely. Captivating.
I loved and wore out Ride the Lightning in its era, but I didn't enjoy "Trapped Under Ice" anywhere near as much just now as I'd have expected to.
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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 28, 2024 9:25:09 GMT
Ok, my thoughts. "The Lovers Pt 1" is a contender for my favourite LPD track, though I do have obsessions with the lyricism and analogue synths of the very early releases ("Splash" has the greatest use of alliteration in history, for example). Here though, they're in as full a pop mode as they ever have been, possibly the only track of theirs which sounds like it could've had regular mainstream radio play. Edward Ka-Spel is a lyricist who should be considered up with the greats in my view, and this is a perfect snapshot of a long-distance relationshop, the brief moments of lovers meeting and parting, without the messy bits in-between.
"EST" is a precursor to the late 80s/early 90s dancefloor bangers. It's just the Friday night tune before heading out. I'm not making a claim for it being innovative as a dance track, it doesn't have the sophistication of Blue Monday or Los Nino Del Parque, but what it does have is that emptiness at its core. It's a stomper in full technicolor day-glo grey. The lyrics attack the tedium of every day life, and replace it with the tedium of drug abuse and mental health issues. And dance about it. Nik Fiend is one of the great embodiments of a band, this powerful punk spirit who you can sing along with and improve the song. Also worth pointing out that this was the 11" version, not a 12".
Metallica's "Trapped Under Ice". It's something I consider a pure pop song in the same vein as Sugar Sugar, a moment of sweet euphoria. I picked this because "Escape" and "Trapped Under Ice" are generally considered the weakest songs on the album, but I want to reclaim them as pop greats of their time. I mean, fuck me, "Fade to Black" is really tedious, why does everyone love that? This is all about that bass riff from the legendary Cliff Burton, it's the sound of a big batch of freshly buttered crumpets, warm, tactile and fulfilling.
Fad Gadget's "Ad Nauseum". The Gag album was Tovey's swansong as a synth-pop pioneer, before he went off in a solo folky direction. The production on this entire album is an absolute masterpiece. It really laid the groundwork for Depeche Mode's Violator, synthpop's sound had been cold, alienating, yet catchy, but it had never been this huge. This was proper stadium-filling sound, even if it never made it beyond the club circuit. The lyrics again are genius, Joyce-ian in their pleasure just to pronounce ("Cloven-hooved I scratch at my thorax", "Spineless and fish-like, I swim in the mire/ I swear like a saw-tooth, fin-flap and gill"). Rowland S Howard's guitar is as violent and scratchy as anything he did in the early Birthday party tracks, a perfect addition of razor-wire texture.
So yeah. All 11/10 for me.
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