toomanyhatz
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Post by toomanyhatz on Mar 29, 2024 23:13:24 GMT
Even though the input from Secret Weapon Helen Terry is limited, and the rather slick arrangement (all the charm comes from the vocals), this is a definite 'hit' for me. It doesn't really rely too much on now-dated sounds (the cod-reggae isn't laid on too thick, anyway), and the vocal is really placed just perfectly. I mean, Ms. Terry does indeed help, but he's really an underrated singer.
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loveless
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Post by loveless on Mar 30, 2024 10:50:42 GMT
Well, you know, people are singling out George's vocal performance and sound, and...yes, 100% I would agree that this is where the gold is mostly buried. He sings it beautifully - 'honeyed' is a better descriptor than anything I could muster. His vocal here is like a piece of chicken or ribs where all of the meat falls off the bone exactly as you'd wish it to. It flows. He doesn't REMOTELY oversing it (no knock on Helen Terry, but...on the likes of "Church of the Poison Mind", at least, she really does chew up the scenery with some patented period "I'm soulful, me!" provincialisms...I'm this close to Googling whether she and Moyet had any sort of long simmering petty trash talking rivalry or cold war). The intro is a stroke of structural and dynamic brilliance. The song is - I mean, it's a sickly sweet lovelorn bubblegum confection that delivers some expert major minor tension, and manages to hit the hook about as hard as you can without overdoing it (the "chorus and a half" at the end works a LOT better than it should). Rim shots aside, I think the track sounds pretty correct (minimal pre-fab period damage), and the recurring electric sitar motif is a masterstroke (especially as it periodically varies the resolving note). Even the ham-fisted use of the faux-dub echo on George's voice in the instrumental break is...I couldn't live without it. A lot of things go right. So, not remotely a major act in my world, but...a record that I find 100% undeniable. I can't fight it, wouldn't want to. This would have been the first thing I heard by them (at 13) - the likes of "White Boy" and "Mystery Boy" and "I'm Afraid of Me" would have been less than a myth in the US. It was impossible to resist and kicked off a decidedly concise (but unrelenting) run of US radio/MTV hits (they struck while the iron was hot), of which "Time" is the only other one for which I can really muster any real affection. Even in increasingly distant memory, the likes of "Miss Me Blind", "It's a Miracle", "I'll Tumble 4 Ya", and the deathless and charmless "Karma Chameleon" scan as decidedly obnoxious ("someone else's idea of fun"). "Pops up on the radio in the wild approximately once a decade" is about right for me, and that is higher praise than it probably seems. You don't need it in abundance, but at the right interval, I can - dare I say - be moved by it. An evenly split vote feels about right - it felt like the kind of track that would elicit a full spectrum of responses.
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Post by Charlie O. on Mar 30, 2024 13:18:38 GMT
This would have been the first thing I heard by them (at 13) - the likes of "White Boy" and "Mystery Boy" and "I'm Afraid of Me" would have been less than a myth in the US. I never knew there were any CC records before "Hurt Me" until I read this thread.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 31, 2024 9:12:48 GMT
I'm this close to Googling whether she and Moyet had any sort of long simmering petty trash talking rivalry or cold war).
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loveless
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Post by loveless on Mar 31, 2024 10:00:41 GMT
As an add on, I will say that (with the full understanding that George's voice is the featured element), the bass really is the lead instrument in a way that deserves praise. Cod or no, it's a GREAT part and performance (stupidly hooky - you could play it in your head right now).
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Post by sloopjohnc on Apr 2, 2024 18:01:18 GMT
Love the song, love the album. I was going to a lot of underground dance clubs at the time and really developing a love of reggae. I think Boy George (and the band) did a great job of cultivating reggae, tropical rhythms, R&B and funk into their own sound. But lots of UK groups like ABC, Paul Young and Wham we're doing the same thing with their own spin.
I really liked that Motown invited George Michael, Boy George and Hall & Oates on that early '80s special. Of course, they were did it to get a wide viewing audience, but they fit in great.
A decade later, I loved that Joss Stone, Duffy, Amy Winehouse, and my favorite, Lisa Stanfield, did the same for UK blue-eyed soul.
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Post by adamcoan on Apr 2, 2024 21:24:49 GMT
April fools was yesterday Sloop.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Apr 3, 2024 14:41:12 GMT
April fools was yesterday Sloop. You're a funny guy.
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