rock pics

[rayge]

May 14, 2024 15:15:25 GMT fearlessfreap said:

The guy next to Jimmy Carl Black may be Cal Schenkel - He's on the bottom right of We're Only In It For The Money
There are two people in the back that aren't Gardner Or Preston - Roy Estrada and Ray Collins.  Arthur Tripp played drums.

Yeah, Ray Collins - forgot about him. 

And I thought it was Schenkel next to the Indian in the group, but Charlie's suggestion seemed to make more sense, as - as far as I know - CS never actually played with the band.

[Sneelock]

a vital contribution nonetheless!

[Charlie O.]

May 14, 2024 15:15:25 GMT fearlessfreap said:

The guy next to Jimmy Carl Black may be Cal Schenkel

Oh, of course it is!

[Charlie O.]

May 14, 2024 15:15:25 GMT fearlessfreap said:

Ray Collins

Of course it is.

[DarknessFish]

This is a great game of Guess Who, where I don't recognise either the pictures or the names. I'm sure this page is actually just someone passing secret messages to the russians.

[neige]

I would be interested but don't see a thing, for some reason.

Can someone send a link?

[rayge]

May 15, 2024 12:11:50 GMT neige said:

I would be interested but don't see a thing, for some reason.

Can someone send a link?

I think DF is referrng to the pic of the Mothers of Invention clutching children posted by JC near the bottom of the previous page.

[neige]

May 15, 2024 13:53:03 GMT rayge said:

May 15, 2024 12:11:50 GMT neige said:

I would be interested but don't see a thing, for some reason.

Can someone send a link?

I think DF is referrng to the pic of the Mothers of Invention clutching children posted by JC near the bottom of the previous page.

Me too.

I only see the caption ("Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, 1968") and no image whatsoever - some sort of geoblocking I suppose.

I reckoned a link to the pic's (online) source might work better.

[Charlie O.]

May 15, 2024 15:15:05 GMT neige said:

I reckoned a link to the pic's (online) source might work better.

link

[Charlie O.]

Don't know if that helps at all...

[neige]

May 15, 2024 15:20:32 GMT Charlie O. said:

Don't know if that helps at all...

It did, thanks Charlie

a recap:

top row: Roy Estrada, Bunk Gardner, Ray Collins, Don Preston

middle row: Art Tripp, Frank Zappa, Jimmy Carl Black, Cal Schenkel

bottom row: Ian Underwood, Motorhead Sherwood

The picture was taken by Art Kane and I found the back story on a site called The Music Aficionado

There is no shortage of photographs capturing Frank Zappa in a multitude of facial expressions from that period of time, some of them curtesy of Cal Schenkel – when he did take them, that is. In contrast, very few pictures exist of Schenkel himself, but one excellent photograph was taken in 1968, one he was not supposed to be in. Life Magazine planned an essay called “The New Rock”, which also included the famous picture of The Who wrapped up in the British flag. The assignment was given to fashion photographer Art Kane, and his original idea for a photograph that featured the Mothers of Invention was to stage them protesting in front of the White House with signs showing their faces, screaming. When Zappa heard the idea he said “That’s the worst fucking idea I’ve heard in my life.” Realizing that some of the Mothers were fathers, Plan B called for a shoot with each Mother cradling a baby. Professional model babies showed up for the shoot, with their real mothers in tow, terrified about the prospect of those other Mothers holding their precious ones for the length of the session. It only got better, as the photographer remembers: “The babies were peeing all over the place! One baby on top peed on Frank Zappa’s head, which then ricocheted onto another guy’s cowboy hat, then dribbled onto another guy. It looked just like the fountains of Rome.”

During these proceedings, Cal Schenkel was taking pictures of Art Kane taking pictures. When the senior photographer started protesting, Zappa invited Schenkel to move in front of the camera and become part to the picture. Schenkel is on the right, middle row. When the picture appeared in Life magazine on their June 28 1968 issue, it was accompanied by the following text: “In the beginning of a song he (Zappa) will demand the following: ‘4/4 for a certain number of bars, 17/8 for three bars, to 22/8 for one bar, all played so far you don’t know what time it is.’”

["BING E BONG"]

Davie B in Berlin in 1977

[Charlie O.]

Is that James O. sitting on the stool grinning at him?

["BING E BONG"]

Igstons? Doesn't look like his hair...

[DarknessFish]

Definitely not Iggy. Definitely Grayson Perry on his shoulder, however.