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Jan 18, 2019 10:43:35 GMT
Post by Inspector Norse on Jan 18, 2019 10:43:35 GMT
This kind of stuff angers me far more than social injustice, war and so on. Those things are so remote and all-powerful, whereas littering is the active, easily avoided choice of one person. There isn't actually any excuse for it. Yes - but don't you worry that when you see red and yell 'why don't you just PUT IT IN THE BIN?!?', they'll come at you with a knife? I mean, it's extremely unlikely but it's those kinds of thoughts that stop me saying anything at all. And yes, I know this is getting a bit 'Daily Mail reader' I don't know about that - but I do feel a bit that if you confront someone dropping litter, suddenly you become the weirdo. Most people turn a blind eye and want to avoid public confrontations. I had a go at a bloke in the street a while ago because he was stood with his dog blocking the way for others coming out of an arcade and got narky with an old fella who'd said "excuse me" at least four times before pushing past. And yet he seemed to think I was weird for taking it up with him.
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Post by Inspector Norse on Jan 18, 2019 10:45:08 GMT
Or you grab the mobile of the cunt who is playing his tunes loudly on the bus and stamp it into the ground whilst people around you cheer. Not quite so extreme but I have witnessed someone on the metro in Stockholm marching down the carriage and blowing his top at two teenagers who were blasting some Youtube shite on their phones, and getting a round of applause for it from everyone else on the train.
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Jan 18, 2019 10:50:48 GMT
Post by oh oooh on Jan 18, 2019 10:50:48 GMT
Yes - but don't you worry that when you see red and yell 'why don't you just PUT IT IN THE BIN?!?', they'll come at you with a knife? I mean, it's extremely unlikely but it's those kinds of thoughts that stop me saying anything at all. And yes, I know this is getting a bit 'Daily Mail reader' I don't know about that - but I do feel a bit that if you confront someone dropping litter, suddenly you become the weirdo. Most people turn a blind eye and want to avoid public confrontations. I had a go at a bloke in the street a while ago because he was stood with his dog blocking the way for others coming out of an arcade and got narky with an old fella who'd said "excuse me" at least four times before pushing past. And yet he seemed to think I was weird for taking it up with him. I had a go at an old fella in Venice last September who was just standing in the middle of a really busy narrow alleyway. I was trying to be calm as well, but I ended up sounding terribly condescending ('do you realise that people are walking up and down here all the time?' etc. etc.). And while I was talking to him I really clocked his face, and he looked old and tired and a bit surprised I was talking like that - and I felt absolutely fucking terrible. I found a quiet alleyway not too far away and stood there for a while, choking back tears.
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Jan 18, 2019 10:52:54 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 18, 2019 10:52:54 GMT
The last time I had a proper go at somebody it was those folks who try and sell these credit cards to people with exorbitant rates of interest. It was just after Xmas so some people are obviously short on cash and despite Leiths rep as a hipster neighbourhood there is still a lot of poverty and vulnerable people about and they were stood at the Kirkgate trying to sell this shit to people so they were clearly targeting that area for obvious reasons and I was just appalled.
Called them all "fucking vultures" or some shit and said they should be "ashamed". I felt a bit embarrassed afterwards. I mean they are only trying to do a job I guess but still, it couldn't help but really anger me.
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Jan 18, 2019 10:59:18 GMT
Post by tory on Jan 18, 2019 10:59:18 GMT
Peter Hitchens talks about the "coarsening of public life" since the sixties and I think there's an element of truth in it.
It might be the old "people don't stand up for women or the elderly on the bus/tube" meme. Or it might be just things where people just get away with being absolute wankers and no-one does anything about it. Of course, it's not like that all the time, but one senses that "we've got worse". On the other hand, there are lots of acts of kindness and charity all the time that go unnoticed.
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Jan 18, 2019 11:20:23 GMT
Post by Reasonable good Nick on Jan 18, 2019 11:20:23 GMT
On the other hand, there are lots of acts of kindness and charity all the time that go unnoticed. Yes. Just last night I was driving home from the office, and pulling up to a junction near Salford Quays, there was a car in front of me in the middle lane which had obviously just broken down, hazard warning lights on. The driver had got out looking mortified as he was blocking traffic in the evening rush hour, and was making a vain attempt to push it himself, but within seconds three or four pedestrians had run out to his car to help him, and together they pushed it on to a nearby garage forecourt. One bloke even hopped out of his car to help push it off the road. It sounds naff, but it was nice to see.
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Jan 18, 2019 11:25:54 GMT
Post by Reasonable good Nick on Jan 18, 2019 11:25:54 GMT
On the littering, I did stop and have a word with a someone a while back. I was walking up Salford Crescent towards my office, and this bloke at a bus stop finished his can of pop and just slung it over his shoulder on to a bit of grass. And without thinking I just said "Come on mate, don't do that. Look, there's a bin just beside you!"
And to my surprise, he did go and pick it up and bin it. He looked very surprised too. I suspect given his proximity to the university campus he might have been one of our overseas students and from a country where littering isn't something people bother about.
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Jan 18, 2019 11:39:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 11:39:55 GMT
Being on Twitter is a source of social anger, I'm sure it's unhealthy. That's just silly. People making a decision to be on social media not being aware of how it works and the consequences of that is unhealthy ... I find wide accusations about social media to be usually inaccurate. It is people who make their experiences what they are. If you decide to follow dicks then don't be surprised if you get dickery. If your fb feed is full of rubbish, it's time to think hard about who your friends are. Yeah, I wasn't talking about being angry at the people you follow on Twitter, rather it can concentrate the awareness of injustices or reasons to be angry that the people you follow tweet about, especially if you follow news, media or the more socially-conscious types, or are interested in current events and click on that type of trending topic. Of course there's always a choice.
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Jan 18, 2019 16:37:21 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 16:37:21 GMT
The last time I got really angry was at a woman at an apartment's dog park, really it's just a strip of grass they allow dogs to shit on.
My son and I were walking his little dog he keeps at his mom's and while we were walking past the dog park/shitting area, a young woman's unleashed dog ran up to our dog and tried to attack it. Before that, the young woman was sitting on a bench, scrolling through her phone.
She ran up as her dog attacked ours and as I held our dog up, I kicked hers - not hard, but to get its attention.
I became unglued and spurted something about that's why they have signs about keeping dogs on a fucking leash and called her a fucking entitled millennial. I unloaded on her and I didn't feel bad about it at all.
There's a big park behind my apartment where I walk, run, and ride bikes. People always walk their dogs without a leash. 99% of the time, I'm sure their dogs are fine, but I don't know that. They have leash signs all over the place.
Once in awhile, I'll sarcastically mention it to them as I pass.
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Jan 18, 2019 16:43:56 GMT
Post by loveless on Jan 18, 2019 16:43:56 GMT
My wife works in the beauty industry (i.e. salon stylist for Ulta Beauty) and has recently mentioned the irksome fact that an increasing number of customers are bringing dogs into retail environments with them. It seems like an advantage is being taken - these aren't seeing eye dogs, and of course it's invariably a certain type of reasonably well-to-do, not especially polite customer who does it, always with some additional "yeah, don't get too close to him" caveat about...whatever the fuck it is people say when they have unfriendly, unpredictable, might-bite-you dogs who assuredly take after their masters.
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Jan 18, 2019 17:39:28 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 17:39:28 GMT
having read through this thread as a borderline misanthropist, i've come to the conclusion that i'm the most tolerant poster of mankind on the board.
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Jan 18, 2019 17:40:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 17:40:57 GMT
having read through this thread as a borderline misanthropist, i've come to the conclusion that i'm the most tolerant poster of mankind on the board. Now, I'm angry.
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