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Jan 16, 2019 23:56:50 GMT
Post by oh oooh on Jan 16, 2019 23:56:50 GMT
What gets you angry that doesn't get other people angry, and vice versa?
maybe we can leave aside 'Mail readers whose blood pressure is raised by the latest 'immigration figures''- it's played-out, we all get it...
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Jan 17, 2019 0:37:34 GMT
Post by loveless on Jan 17, 2019 0:37:34 GMT
There are certain types of seeming (for lack of a better word) inanity that probably turn me into some kind of raging sociopath. And sometimes that's like being in a room where a buffalo has farted, and hardly anyone else can smell it.
"My own bullshit" is probably the first thing that comes to mind regarding "angers others, doesn't trouble me horribly".
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Jan 17, 2019 13:17:10 GMT
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Post by tory on Jan 17, 2019 13:17:10 GMT
I get angry at myself for getting angry at tech hiccups like long loading times or our Wi-Fi no longer producing f1 like internet speed. That always has me going "oh ffs" really quickly.
I'm also prone to a bit of road rage, but nothing ever particularly visceral. I'll swear but that's it.
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Jan 17, 2019 13:36:29 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 17, 2019 13:36:29 GMT
The other day some fella was standing outside Lidl with his child handed him one of those empty large brown bags you get find in the lidl bakery section and he just dropped it on the floor. There was a fucking bin literally 8 ft away. I couldn't believe it. He walked away and I picked it up and put it the bin but he didn;t notice. I felt about talking to him but what the hell do you say in those situations? A lass with a child said summat to me and shook her head as a mutual gesture and I spent the whole way home cursing him and his kind who so blithley drop litter everywhere. Lazy, selfish cunt I thought. On the remainder of my journey of course I started to notice every single piece of litter that I normally probably ignore and it was like every piece of thoughtlessly discarded trash was offending my very person. The Rage was fermenting inside me and I thought about his children copying him and probably dropping litter for the rest of their lives and I started cursing humanity and thinking, "the planet is fucked". When I got inside my flat I was STILL cursing the cunt and that went on for about another ten minutes before The Rage subsided. An overreaction of course but one of those things that becomes symptomatic of a much deeper problem. Shit like this (people not holding doors open or saying thankyou, jumping queues etc) bother me far, far more than any current world issue you care to mention.
It's these little things these days that make me want to climb up onto a roof and start shooting children.
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Jan 17, 2019 14:59:48 GMT
Post by rayge on Jan 17, 2019 14:59:48 GMT
Double genitives, as in "a friend of dorothy's". Other pedantries I notice and maintain as a legacy of copy editing don't affect me like that one. And, maybe 20 years ago, in a piece for a true crime mag, I referred to someone as a neighbour of Dando [the victim] and when I got the sprinted copy, some lame twerp of a sub altered it to "of Dando's". I was spitting feathers. Actually rang the editor to complain. I would have demanded my name was taken off it, if it weren't for the fact that it was not on it in the first place. Not that I get really furious about anything that isn't personal these days – if I feel I'm getting angry about something I can do fuck all about, I have lots of ways of derailing it, not all of them involving bongs.
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Jan 17, 2019 15:14:18 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 15:14:18 GMT
I can't think of things that make me angry that wouldn't make other people so - though perhaps Rayge could enlighten me.
The thing which makes me seeth most is inconsideration ... particularly when it's creating danger for others such as bad driving. So no, not really.
Being on Twitter is a source of social anger, I'm sure it's unhealthy.
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Jan 17, 2019 15:14:30 GMT
Post by loveless on Jan 17, 2019 15:14:30 GMT
I think...seeing any of the people whom you NEED to love/like/tolerate/admire (friends, family, professional associates) demonstrating (what you might consider to be) some loathsome behavior or severe breach in either courtesy, generosity or self-awareness...it's a failing of mine that that sort of thing can really fester, and - perhaps, worst of all - if a seeming pattern emerges, I can really start developing an "inventory" of "cognitive or ethical infractions" until at some point, I might no longer be capable of speaking to the person. I mean - on MY part, that's fucking irrational behavior, but...we're talking about anger, and...I suppose it's not our most reasoned side.
Honestly, it's not that different from what Goat Boy mentions above - a sense of minimal behavioral standards being betrayed, and just being somehow disappointed or galled by people you can't afford to be disappointed or galled by.
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Jan 17, 2019 15:47:04 GMT
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Post by tory on Jan 17, 2019 15:47:04 GMT
Being on Twitter is a source of social anger, I'm sure it's unhealthy. That's just silly. People making a decision to be on social media not being aware of how it works and the consequences of that is unhealthy. I love Twitter. As with all social media, it entirely depends on how you use it. There are a lot of very interesting opinions and sources of knowledge on it - I'd say that as a whole, it has replaced trad print media as a source of news. It is also extremely funny at times too. I find wide accusations about social media to be usually inaccurate. It is people who make their experiences what they are. If you decide to follow dicks then don't be surprised if you get dickery. If your fb feed is full of rubbish, it's time to think hard about who your friends are.
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Jan 17, 2019 16:22:43 GMT
Post by loveless on Jan 17, 2019 16:22:43 GMT
What gets you angry that doesn't get other people angry, and vice versa? The emphasis is mine, but...I don't think the reality of "an infinite spectrum of highly personalized reactions" can be over-emphasized. I would gather that if any of us really let loose about our most individual specific and unseemly "Hard boiled eggs make me see red!" tics, we'd look like very petty hair trigger lunatics to our neighbors and friends. It's a type of largely non-transferable reactive response...I feel lucky when I'm narrating something like this and my wife or one of my friends just kind of GETS it and is like "YEAH - fuck that guy/thing!" (this doesn't always happen) cause...I can imagine what it might look like to someone with different wiring...I had a friend/colleague who just kind of always seemed to be in the passenger seat of my car/our lives for YEARS whose reaction to my venting was almost always *(shrug)* "Yeah - I don't really let that sort of thing bother me." And I'd think (with no enormous charity) "Yeah, I can see that."
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Jan 17, 2019 16:54:40 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 16:54:40 GMT
The other day some fella was standing outside Lidl with his child handed him one of those empty large brown bags you get find in the lidl bakery section and he just dropped it on the floor. There was a fucking bin literally 8 ft away. I couldn't believe it. Just this morning, walking to the front door of my office building from the parking lot, I noticed a piece of paper that holds a pastry from Starbucks or something on the concrete path. I deduced it was probably some person walking into work who dropped it and didn't want to bend over and put it in the trash can a few feet away like your guy. I have kids so I'm used to cleaning up after people. In fact, it pissed me off yesterday when I came home from work and the kitchen trash was overflowing from chip bags and milk containers my son and his friend had put in there. I told them, in almost exact words, "Didn't you lazy fuckers notice that the trash was overflowing?" as I proceeded to wrap up the liner to bring down to the dumpster. To their credit, the two boys understood - my son's friend asked, "Do you want me to throw it away, Mr. Crook?" and my son raced over to put a new plastic bag liner in the trash.
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Jan 18, 2019 10:27:08 GMT
Post by Inspector Norse on Jan 18, 2019 10:27:08 GMT
This kind of stuff angers me far more than social injustice, war and so on. Those things are so remote and all-powerful, whereas littering is the active, easily avoided choice of one person. There isn't actually any excuse for it. Likewise speeding (in urban areas - everyone in the world goes 10% faster than the official limit on the motorway). Where I live there are loads and loads of kids around yet you see knobbers going at 50mph in a 20-30 limit. I sometimes hope they crash (into a wall or something so no innocent bystanders get hurt).
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Jan 18, 2019 10:29:29 GMT
Post by oh oooh on Jan 18, 2019 10:29:29 GMT
This kind of stuff angers me far more than social injustice, war and so on. Those things are so remote and all-powerful, whereas littering is the active, easily avoided choice of one person. There isn't actually any excuse for it. Yes - but don't you worry that when you see red and yell 'why don't you just PUT IT IN THE BIN?!?', they'll come at you with a knife? I mean, it's extremely unlikely but it's those kinds of thoughts that stop me saying anything at all. And yes, I know this is getting a bit 'Daily Mail reader'
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Jan 18, 2019 10:35:48 GMT
Post by tory on Jan 18, 2019 10:35:48 GMT
It's just social courtesy, it isn't Daily Mail reader.
I had a MASSIVE GO at a kid at the park last summer. He just chucked some bits of post from his house on the floor with a bin not 20 ft from him. I said cheerily "you forgot your litter" to him. He ignored me and then I said "Excuse me, you dropped some litter - would you mind putting it in the bin where it belongs?". Ignored again. I then blew my top and shouted at him "LOOK YOU LITTLE SHIT PICK UP THE RUBBISH". Ignored. Then I confronted him by standing in front of him and he did it.
I then felt massively guilty for the rest of the day.
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Jan 18, 2019 10:40:49 GMT
Post by oh oooh on Jan 18, 2019 10:40:49 GMT
It's just social courtesy, it isn't Daily Mail reader. No, I meant the idea that everyone who drops litter is a potential murderer! Which is nonsense, propagated by the gutter press ('thugs' etc.). But those thoughts come into your head, especially when you're in a city centre, especially late at night. It's best to just leave it.
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Jan 18, 2019 10:41:35 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 18, 2019 10:41:35 GMT
This kind of stuff angers me far more than social injustice, war and so on. Those things are so remote and all-powerful, whereas littering is the active, easily avoided choice of one person. There isn't actually any excuse for it. Yes - but don't you worry that when you see red and yell 'why don't you just PUT IT IN THE BIN?!?', they'll come at you with a knife? I mean, it's extremely unlikely but it's those kinds of thoughts that stop me saying anything at all. And yes, I know this is getting a bit 'Daily Mail reader' How do you phrase it? -"Excuse me, Sir but can you use the bin instead? It's just over there..." -Fuck off cunt I live in Leith. You have to be mindful. It's understandable that people say nothing. For the same reason that people will back away from any potential confrontation and I don't judge them. I've challenged people in public a few times about things and a couple of times it's looked like a fight would develop but thankfully it hasn't. I'm not sure I'd do the same thing now. And of course sometimes you find yourself visualising the fantasy scenario where you go over and pick up the litter and fucking ram it RIGHT DOWN THEIR THROAT. Or you grab the mobile of the cunt who is playing his tunes loudly on the bus and stamp it into the ground whilst people around you cheer. Take that motherfuckers! Well I do anyway.
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