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Post by Stacy Heydon on Sept 18, 2023 7:31:43 GMT
Noel Fielding is probably next. lots of stuff about David Walliams too..
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Post by tory on Sept 18, 2023 7:39:58 GMT
What is an "alt right grifter"?
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Post by oh oooh on Sept 18, 2023 7:44:51 GMT
A grifter from the alt right?
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Sept 18, 2023 7:45:46 GMT
What is an "alt right grifter"? spinning conspiracy narratives for money.
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Post by DayoRemix on Sept 18, 2023 8:00:52 GMT
why Fielding?
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Post by DarknessFish on Sept 18, 2023 8:42:59 GMT
I thought you had to be black to be a grifter. That's what the non-establishment free-thinkers who shout "grifter" in their thousands on twitter seem to agree on.
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Post by tory on Sept 18, 2023 10:20:03 GMT
With regard to Brand's peccadilloes with the 16 year old, he didn't break the law. Morally, yes, it's pretty abject and it's right for him to be morally censored, but he didn't commit a crime by sleeping with her.
There is a vague whiff of the witch hunt about this, but at the same time as a society we shouldn't be encouraging men to be exploiting young girls in this manner. The problem is that this will continue, perhaps always.
Some young women are attracted to men who have power, fame and money.
Some men are (very) attracted to beautiful young women, some of which will disguise their age.
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Post by DarknessFish on Sept 18, 2023 10:39:28 GMT
My wife got entirely confused with this story, and thought that Russell Grant was being accused of sexual assaults against women. Which seems much less likely to me.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Sept 18, 2023 11:15:15 GMT
With regard to Brand's peccadilloes with the 16 year old, he didn't break the law. Morally, yes, it's pretty abject and it's right for him to be morally censored, but he didn't commit a crime by sleeping with her. There is a vague whiff of the witch hunt about this, but at the same time as a society we shouldn't be encouraging men to be exploiting young girls in this manner. The problem is that this will continue, perhaps always. Some young women are attracted to men who have power, fame and money. Some men are (very) attracted to beautiful young women, some of which will disguise their age. That's not the only allegation though Toby. He's also been accused of rape and sexual assault.
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Post by tory on Sept 18, 2023 12:28:54 GMT
I know. I was referring specifically to the allegations of "grooming".
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Post by harrylemon on Sept 18, 2023 14:14:54 GMT
With regard to Brand's peccadilloes with the 16 year old, he didn't break the law. Morally, yes, it's pretty abject and it's right for him to be morally censored, but he didn't commit a crime by sleeping with her. There is a vague whiff of the witch hunt about this, but at the same time as a society we shouldn't be encouraging men to be exploiting young girls in this manner. The problem is that this will continue, perhaps always. Some young women are attracted to men who have power, fame and money. Some men are (very) attracted to beautiful young women, some of which will disguise their age. He didn't commit a crime by sleeping with her. However if her recollections are true and he had to be physically punched to stop an act after she said no, then that would be breaking the law.
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Post by davey on Sept 18, 2023 14:24:38 GMT
With regard to Brand's peccadilloes with the 16 year old, he didn't break the law. Morally, yes, it's pretty abject and it's right for him to be morally censored, but he didn't commit a crime by sleeping with her. There is a vague whiff of the witch hunt about this, but at the same time as a society we shouldn't be encouraging men to be exploiting young girls in this manner. The problem is that this will continue, perhaps always. Some young women are attracted to men who have power, fame and money. Some men are (very) attracted to beautiful young women, some uof which will disguise their age. There’s a vague whiff of point-missing here.
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Post by tory on Sept 18, 2023 14:31:40 GMT
Do you think the issue of powerful and charismatic men exploiting young women, some of whom desire power and status, will be "solved" for want of a better phrase?
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Post by davey on Sept 18, 2023 14:37:09 GMT
Of course not.
Do you think the issue of Russell Brand raping women might be solved in our lifetimes?
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Post by tory on Sept 18, 2023 14:58:25 GMT
I'll wait for the evidence and the jury to make their minds up.
We were here with Kevin Spacey a few years ago, it must be said, and those turned out to be completely baseless accusations.
I suspect that Brand is a sleazebag. I have no like for him and am not surprised that these accusations have emerged.
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