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Post by DarknessFish on Mar 21, 2020 10:55:40 GMT
My Facebook feed is full of people sanctimoniously condemning anyone who has stepped out of the house. One (ex) bcber is getting very irate because he caught his dad going to the local shop to get eggs "Dad you're going to kill us all!". I mean Jesus.. I've seen the same kind of thing on my Facebook page, someone ranting at friends arranging to go to each others houses, rather than the pub. I get the national lockdown need, but there's still only 4 people diagnosed here. I think there's room for some common sense.
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Post by fonz on Mar 21, 2020 11:20:25 GMT
That’s the point though. Exercise real restraint now while you can. By the time you have more cases it will be too late to prevent the exponential upswing.
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Post by fonz on Mar 21, 2020 11:20:58 GMT
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Post by fonz on Mar 21, 2020 11:22:35 GMT
Everyone. Please listen to this.
He articulates this better than I can.
But, I am at work, in a big hospital, now. We are gearing up to something of catastrophic proportions. Please don’t dismiss it.
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Mar 21, 2020 11:37:48 GMT
If I was 19 and wanted to meet my mates in the pub, I'd take the risk - considering that even if I DID catch it, the symptoms would be mild and they'd be over in a week or so.
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Post by fange on Mar 21, 2020 11:50:47 GMT
If I was 19 and wanted to meet my mates in the pub, I'd take the risk - considering that even if I DID catch it, the symptoms would be mild and they'd be over in a week or so. Yeah, thats the key to the problem, i'm not old and i should be fine; most of the people who go out and do end up catching it will be fine. But they become carriers, and pass it on to 2, 4, 8, 16 people and so on, and one or more of those peopele might die. The 19 year olds don't or won't think about that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 11:51:43 GMT
That’s the point though. Exercise real restraint now while you can. By the time you have more cases it will be too late to prevent the exponential upswing. But restraint isn't the same thing as berating people with some holier than thou attitude. I think we just have to accept that there are times when people will need to leave the house.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 12:08:11 GMT
I don't know if Ray's just read those recent posts but he's just told me he's suspending his discogs account for now - meaning he won't be going to the post office (never mind every day). Thank the non-existent fucking lord. If I was 19 and wanted to meet my mates in the pub, I'd take the risk - considering that even if I DID catch it, the symptoms would be mild and they'd be over in a week or so. A vaccine isn't even on the table for another year and a half-to two years. In 3 months if everyone went to work as usual .. the crisis will occur then surely? So what's the thinking? Herd protection? As I understand it, doesn't it mean that let some people get infected so they can get over it. If large parts of society are thereby immune (having already had it) then it won't spread like a fire through dry hayfields. Is that the thinking? So what are they going to do, open schools and tell kids not to visit their grandparents? Because it is non-vulnerable young people who are least affected by it. Almost zero mortality isn't it? And mild symptoms. And Tell non-elderly and non-vulnerable people to go back to work? What is the plan in the UK? (Or in your part of the world?)
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Mar 21, 2020 12:25:07 GMT
All I know is that we have to be very very careful with social interaction and personal hygiene until the worst of this passes.
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Mar 21, 2020 12:29:29 GMT
In 3 months if everyone went to work as usual .. the crisis will occur then surely? Yeah, I imagine there's a real risk that'll happen. That's why I had some sympathy with the government's talk of 'fatigue' - if they introduce strict measures early, people will tolerate it for so long and then kick back, and then we're in trouble. It's almost impossible to know what the best thing to do is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 12:37:32 GMT
The best thing to do is plan for the worst and behave responsibly with that in mind.
I can't help but think that as it's out there, and as there'll be no vaccine for a while, I just can't help but thinking we'll pretty much all end up having it. So if that happens the best thing to do is to stagger it so we don't all get it at once - maximising availability of treatment for those in life-threatening stages is the pragmatic thing which means controlling society at large for long periods of time in stages. We're on the first three-month stage.
But what do I know? Happy to be wrong about that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 12:37:44 GMT
Well the virus only survives in people for so long, at some point it will recede.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 12:40:05 GMT
They've already developed a vaccine. With the right international cooperation they can surely make it available within the year.
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Post by tory on Mar 21, 2020 13:10:30 GMT
In 3 months if everyone went to work as usual .. the crisis will occur then surely? Yeah, I imagine there's a real risk that'll happen. That's why I had some sympathy with the government's talk of 'fatigue' - if they introduce strict measures early, people will tolerate it for so long and then kick back, and then we're in trouble. It's almost impossible to know what the best thing to do is. Let's see how everyone is getting on in 2 weeks time I reckon. The government was right in that the psychological impact of quarantine cannot be underestimated. It is traumatic and everyone is going to be affected. Yes, there are lots of people who effectively live like hermits, particularly on music message boards I reckon. But the majority is not and thrives on social contact.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 13:30:24 GMT
Many will miss gyms, theatres, cafes, etc, absolutely, but on the other hand getting people out of the habit of equating alcohol with leisure may not be all that bad.
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