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Post by tory on Apr 1, 2020 12:56:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 12:59:58 GMT
I don't want the EU to end - but I think that it was hugely telling that countries reverted to borders when this crisis emerged. That tells you that, ultimately, the European 'identity' is far more fragile than it appears. You're projecting way too much there. That was simply a practical response to stop or lessen the spread of the virus.
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Apr 1, 2020 13:10:06 GMT
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Post by Cousin Lou on Apr 1, 2020 15:27:23 GMT
No idea really. It's all up in the air, but I'd say that without massive parachuted cash from Germany, which will come with stipends, Spain, Italy, Portugal and Greece are totally fucked unless restrictions are withdrawn in time for the summer. I don't want the EU to end - but I think that it was hugely telling that countries reverted to borders when this crisis emerged. That tells you that, ultimately, the European 'identity' is far more fragile than it appears. The Eurozone is financially lethargic and not particularly agile. The damage, in terms of perceptions, is difficult to gauge. Chinese and Russian aid (whilst totally peripheral) was first before the EU. People in Italy are already totally fucked off and they won't be happy at the apparent lack of help from the EU (as an organisation). Personally, even without this crisis, I suspected that the EU would be slimmed down to a core rump in time anyway - of France, Germany & Benelux. Countries reverting to borders is a simple function of the EU not having a common policy in health affairs like this. Eurozone financially lethargic. Where do you get that from? Lethagic I would save to describe Johnson's initial apporoach to the crisis.
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Post by tory on Apr 3, 2020 16:57:52 GMT
"Women were four times more likely than men to report to think it was right to limit people’s freedom in order to block the Coronavirus spread, and three times more likely to request more severe punishment for risky behaviors." psyarxiv.com/84d2c/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:58:31 GMT
"Women were four times more likely than men to report to think it was right to limit people’s freedom in order to block the Coronavirus spread, and three times more likely to request more severe punishment for risky behaviors." psyarxiv.com/84d2c/ It's the protecting the family instinct I think.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 6, 2020 19:34:26 GMT
Johnson in intensive care now
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Apr 6, 2020 19:36:27 GMT
oh fuck
I hope he recovers, and soon. I really do.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 6, 2020 19:46:38 GMT
Only a twat wouldn’t.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 17:56:40 GMT
Dominic Raab has said "Boris is a fighter and will recover". Were the people who have died not fighters then? They're already trying to make political capital out of him catching this thing and it's an insult to those who have died.
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Apr 7, 2020 18:07:59 GMT
Oh G, honestly. He said what you would expect and I hardly think he's trying to make political capital out of the situation. And he doesn't have time to name all the other people who are suffering right now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 18:19:08 GMT
Oh G, honestly. He said what you would expect and I hardly think he's trying to make political capital out of the situation. And he doesn't have time to name all the other people who are suffering right now. Who said anything about naming all the people suffering? Not me in my post. All he needed to say is The Prime Minister is recovering, just give us the facts.
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Post by tory on Apr 7, 2020 19:05:57 GMT
Well, the WHO - Won't get fooled again by them eh!
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 7, 2020 21:23:31 GMT
Oh G, honestly. He said what you would expect and I hardly think he's trying to make political capital out of the situation. And he doesn't have time to name all the other people who are suffering right now. It’s just something people say. If you wanted to read into it further you could argue that as PM he is symbolic of Britain therefore saying he is a fighter who will recover is another way of saying Britain will fight this and win. But I don’t honestly think that much thought went into it.
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Post by hippopotamus on Apr 8, 2020 0:06:21 GMT
Oh G, honestly. He said what you would expect and I hardly think he's trying to make political capital out of the situation. And he doesn't have time to name all the other people who are suffering right now. It’s just something people say. If you wanted to read into it further you could argue that as PM he is symbolic of Britain therefore saying he is a fighter who will recover is another way of saying Britain will fight this and win. But I don’t honestly think that much thought went into it. I'm there is enough anxiety to have people panic that in the midst of a national crisis Britain will lose its leader. Intensive care is serious and there is a possibility. Leaders are supposed to give hope. Though, as remarked... None of it seemed very well thought through or well expressed.
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