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Post by ~ / % ? * on May 23, 2020 19:28:34 GMT
I had a little emergency on my drive home two nights ago. I had to make a few stops and then stop for gas. All the employees, two seniors, three women and myself wore masks. at least a cool dozen men did not. this really concerns me. I have found the "i'm not gonna wear a mask, it's my constitutional right" knuckleheads tend to part like the Red Sea if a child comes their way, so they do fear the virus...
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Post by oh oooh on May 23, 2020 19:35:43 GMT
Well, I think the furore is as much about the government response, all the senior ministers have come out and said "He's a top bloke, just looking after his kids, done nothing wrong", when literally tens of thousands of people have buried relatives and been prevented from attending funerals. It's not a good look, an apology and some humility would go down well. What kind of cunt falls ill with a disease which is lethal to the elderly, and thinks, I'll pop over to my mum and dads with the kids? It's shitty.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 19:53:20 GMT
What he did was irresponsible even if you leave aside his position. I don't know how it could be defended (apart from this dubious 'it was perfectly legal' letter-of-the-law bullshit you're getting from some quarters) The defence would be he was concerned that no one would be in a position took after his son. Seems perfectly understandable to me.
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Post by DarknessFish on May 23, 2020 20:00:22 GMT
"When making alternative arrangements, parents should not rely for childcare upon those who are advised to be in the stringent social distancing category, such as grandparents [ie older people over 70 regardless of medical need] or friends or family members with underlying conditions.”
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 20:05:57 GMT
"When making alternative arrangements, parents should not rely for childcare upon those who are advised to be in the stringent social distancing category, such as grandparents [ie older people over 70 regardless of medical need] or friends or family members with underlying conditions.” I thought he took his kid to his sister?
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Post by oh oooh on May 23, 2020 20:07:23 GMT
What he did was irresponsible even if you leave aside his position. I don't know how it could be defended (apart from this dubious 'it was perfectly legal' letter-of-the-law bullshit you're getting from some quarters) The defence would be he was concerned that no one would be in a position took after his son. Seems perfectly understandable to me. He must have had other options. He's a wealthy man, he can afford private care. Or someone else could have driven his son. Can't believe you're defending him. Not only are his actions indefensible, but it's the sort of thing you're normally up in arms about.
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Post by DarknessFish on May 23, 2020 20:12:20 GMT
"When making alternative arrangements, parents should not rely for childcare upon those who are advised to be in the stringent social distancing category, such as grandparents [ie older people over 70 regardless of medical need] or friends or family members with underlying conditions.” I thought he took his kid to his sister? He went to his parents' house, near his sister. It's all bollocks anyway, he just wanted to be somewhere nicer during lockdown. He went twice, it turns out.
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Post by DarknessFish on May 23, 2020 21:06:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 23:53:44 GMT
Houghall is just south of Durham City, Barnard Castle is a drive to the west and you'd have to go out of your way to get there. You'd take the by-pass around Darlington to get back south. It sounds like he was having a tour of the county. I wonder if he visited Raby Castle, Finchale Priory or High Force waterfall.
People have resigned for less and their resignations were given justification by everyone, which makes the complete moral defence of him by cabinet ministers odd. Why not just admit that he made an "error of judgement"?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 1:08:07 GMT
The defence would be he was concerned that no one would be in a position took after his son. Seems perfectly understandable to me. He must have had other options. He's a wealthy man, he can afford private care. Or someone else could have driven his son. What's his wealth got to do with it? What you've said there doesn't make any sense. Why would taking him to a private nanny be a safer option than taking him to his sister and what makes you think the nanny would be allowed to take him given that teachers aren't yet allowed to be near kids? And why would someone else driving his son be within the rules but Cummings driving his son not be?
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Post by oh oooh on May 24, 2020 1:32:47 GMT
You said 'he was concerned that no one would be in a position to look after his son'. How do you know that? Why are you giving him the benefit of the doubt?
And 'safer options' isn't applicable here because compromises have to be taken. Or rather, they have to be taken by everyone in the UK apart from Cummings, presumably.
And the 'someone else' who could have driven his car would have been clear of symptoms. Cummings was ill when he drove.
Sorry G but you're all wrong about this.
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Post by tory on May 24, 2020 7:44:07 GMT
SORRY JOHN BUT YOU'RE ALL WRONG ABOUT THIS
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 11:46:46 GMT
Quite a few Tory MPs are wanting him to go now.
I'm wondering if something deeper is going on here. The timing of the story breaking is quite odd as well. Has there been any anxiety amongst the benches over Johnson in recent weeks?
I don't care about Cummings. The entire cabinet gaslighting families, whoever they voted for, for doing the right thing is what's baffling me the most.
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Post by oh oooh on May 24, 2020 12:06:15 GMT
He's not a popular man among the backbenchers especially
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 12:36:20 GMT
I'm still not sure what gaslighting means, even though I see the word everywhere these days.
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