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Post by Sneelock on Jun 11, 2021 15:45:21 GMT
funnier than Kafka? :lol: my dentist is funnier than Kafka.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Jun 12, 2021 16:41:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 8:38:08 GMT
funnier than Kafka? :lol: my dentist is funnier than Kafka. There's actually quite a bit of humour in Kafka.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 8:48:56 GMT
It seems to be lumping people together, which is another problem of the modern age..this constructing of 'sides'. Dawkins doesn't seem to have a lot in common with some of those other people for instance.
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 14, 2021 9:59:32 GMT
funnier than Kafka? :lol: my dentist is funnier than Kafka. There's actually quite a bit of humour in Kafka. So,when people say something is Kafka-esque they mean it’s a Laff-riot!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 10:05:48 GMT
There's actually quite a bit of humour in Kafka. So,when people say something is Kafka-esque they mean it’s a Laff-riot! Clearly not, but they're using one aspect of his work to talk about a general condition, so the adjective has an independence from the actual writer. In the same way Orwell wasn't always 'Orwellian'. He wasn't being 'Orwellian' when he was describing how to make the perfect English cup of tea for instance.
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 14, 2021 11:48:09 GMT
Wow, you’re even funnier than Orwell!
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Post by daveythefatboy on Jun 14, 2021 15:33:10 GMT
It seems to be lumping people together, which is another problem of the modern age..this constructing of 'sides'. Dawkins doesn't seem to have a lot in common with some of those other people for instance. Sure. I don’t even know who a few of them are. But the larger point (that most of the major ‘new atheist’ voices have migrated towards the authoritarian right) seems worthy of note.
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 14, 2021 16:06:12 GMT
for me, an important takeaway of the article is the role social media has played in this. many start out being dry, button down types and end up screaming at the flying monkeys to descend.
I will hasten to add that I think this has happened to lefties like Glenn Greewald & Matt Taibbi too but they don't seem quite as twitterpated with authoritarianism. not yet anyway.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Jun 14, 2021 16:35:28 GMT
for me, an important takeaway of the article is the role social media has played in this. many start out being dry, button down types and end up screaming at the flying monkeys to descend. I will hasten to add that I think this has happened to lefties like Glenn Greewald & Matt Taibbi too but they don't seem quite as twitterpated with authoritarianism. not yet anyway. They’re more like ‘authoritarian-curious.’ But I think you’re on to something. There just seems to be a strong pull that direction coming from the whole ‘intellectual dark web’ gestalt. We saw our friend Jimbo fall down that rabbit-hole. I suppose it makes some sense. Once you build your brand on being some kind of edge-lord, you have to embrace edgier and edgier stuff to maintain it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 16:50:31 GMT
Great, atheists and intellectuals are right wing gammons or snowflake apologists depending on what someone can find trawling Twitter. What a world. Either way you are all just having one form of social media re-enforcing your paranoia or confirming your view. Memes and word bursts destroy years of thought , evidence and thinking in seconds.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Jun 14, 2021 17:02:08 GMT
Great, atheists and intellectuals are right wing gammons or snowflake apologists depending on what someone can find trawling Twitter. What a world. Either way you are all just having one form of social media re-enforcing your paranoia or confirming your view. Memes and word bursts destroy years of thought , evidence and thinking in seconds. I think there’s a kind of intellectual grifter-ism amongst some of these folks that has exposed itself over time. Social media opened up a space for ‘alternative voices’ - and some folks saw opportunity. If social media is “destroying years of thought and evidence” - a good portion of that is a form of willing suicide in service of market opportunism.
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 14, 2021 18:48:33 GMT
Dawkins took to Twitter like a duck to water. it suits his purposes whatever those may be.
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