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Post by Charlie O. on Apr 5, 2020 16:32:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 16:33:41 GMT
I saw one where he was making noises about regretting it but I saw a more recent one where Croz is saying there's still a rift. But yours may be more up-to-date.
*Edit: No, yours is two years old. I saw that. He said he doesn't know how to "undo it", but he's still not taking Croz's calls.
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Post by Charlie O. on Apr 5, 2020 16:34:43 GMT
I saw one where he was making noises about regretting it but I saw a more recent one where Croz is saying there's still a rift. But yours may be more up-to-date. Both could easily be true.
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Post by Charlie O. on Apr 5, 2020 16:54:26 GMT
*Edit: No, yours is two years old. I didn't even notice! Thought it was a new thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 17:05:05 GMT
Croz, this year, talking about how the last CSN tour was def. the last. He says Nash wasn't even looking at him. So Croz's remark was probably just the excuse Nash needed to brush him off for good. www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnjrbyICZ4&t=23m40sThere's a recent youtube with Croz being more specific, if I find it I'll post it.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Apr 5, 2020 17:28:31 GMT
One thing I will say in Nash's favor: when CSN reunited in 1977, he was the only one who brought his 'A' game. All of his songs are good - "Cathedral" is really good - and Stills' songs in particular suck. "Fair Game?" Bite me.
"Shadow Captain" is probably my favorite, and it's Croz, but it's a co-write.
Other than that, in the extended family, he's the worst musician, the worst songwriter, and the least interesting guy. He's had his successes, and he has more pop sense than the rest, and I don't think any of them are expendable, but he's always been my least favorite member.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 17:58:01 GMT
One thing I will say in Nash's favor: when CSN reunited in 1977, he was the only one who brought his 'A' game. All of his songs are good - "Cathedral" is really good I disagree. 'Cathedral', a song about tripping in Winchester Cathedral as Nash always explains, could have been a good song but Nash's usual lazy and overly-simplistic and occasionally preachy lyrics ruin it. "And now I'm standing on the grave of a soldier that died in 1799. And the day he died, it was a birthday, And I noticed it was mine."? Crap. 'Just a song before I go'? Written for a bet and it shows. The rest? OK at best. Stills' songs in particular suck. Oh not at all, although 'Fair Game' is sexist shite. I like the others. They're not great but they're a long way from crap. They do suffer from over production and too heavy with the harmonies - take a song like 'Dark Star' live with the latin percussion he favours ... pisses all over 'Cathedral' but then I realise that's just a matter of opinion
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Post by toomanyhatz on Apr 5, 2020 20:05:07 GMT
Yeah, fair (game) enough - I suspect my perception is colored by what I thought at the time I heard it (not 1977, but sometime in the early 80s, I think), listening to it stoned (those orchestrations on "Cathedral" really sounded great, and I can still feel it when I listen now). The lyrics you quote are pretty lame out of context, but as "stoned thinking" it really captures that sense of thinking every spontaneous thought you come up with is brilliant. Maybe his entire career is like that? And "Dark Star" is definitely my favorite Stills song on it. Mind you, they all have plenty of songs that suffer from weak lyrics. My ability to forgive them is subject to many factors, but nostalgia for hearing it for the first time - honestly expecting to hate it and being surprised that I found some of it enjoyable - is probably key.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Apr 5, 2020 23:21:27 GMT
Say whatever you want about the guy - but he was a baroque-pop immortal for a few years around 1966/67.
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Post by oh oooh on Apr 5, 2020 23:36:45 GMT
Back on track!
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Post by Charlie O. on Apr 6, 2020 0:04:18 GMT
I do love a lot of that stuff, not to mention the beat group stuff before it. They were a good little group.
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Post by loveless on Apr 6, 2020 0:32:09 GMT
Bobby Elliot is the man!
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Post by Charlie O. on Apr 6, 2020 0:35:26 GMT
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Post by Sneelock on Apr 6, 2020 17:01:48 GMT
If Graham Nash is talking in a documentary - get me a glass of warm milk because that guy is going to put me to sleep.
Still, I always liked him myself. Listen to "long may you run" then listen to a Crosby/Nash album. Nash brought more to the party than his songs. I know his songs are considered slight and twee by many. I like them myself but I can see why people might think that.
I DON'T see how you can discount what he brings to the harmonies.
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Post by Sneelock on Apr 6, 2020 17:16:20 GMT
as for "the feud" I think it was a dick move on Cosby's part. still, Young had been with his wife a long time. I don't think calling Daryl Hannah names was a good idea but he's not the only guy who thought Neil looked sort of dumb suddenly dumping his wife for a much younger movie star. Most guys just get a Harley or something.
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