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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 7:22:00 GMT
How did this become a thread about Guinness and wanking?
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jun 3, 2020 7:38:28 GMT
You have a textbook example of virtue signalling right there - the fake emoting, the acting.always TUGGING it back to them, their thoughts - the fear when talk of the actual issue itself goes on too long
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 3, 2020 8:26:05 GMT
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Post by tory on Jun 3, 2020 8:28:10 GMT
I do think Zizek nails a lot of things - my only issue with him is that he doesn't really offer any solutions to what he sees. He's a brilliant observer.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jun 3, 2020 8:31:48 GMT
He's a fucking freak, let's be frank about it.
I've seen film of him talking to US students and they're lining up to go down on him. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 3, 2020 8:39:24 GMT
He's funny and he has some canny observations.
I'd like to have a drink with him although I would need some PPE equipment.
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Post by tory on Jun 3, 2020 8:43:44 GMT
What makes him stand out is that he uses cultural references to make observations about the world. "If you watch x" or "if you listen to y" - that's the sort of philosophy we need, because it is our culture that makes us who we are, not mindlessly dull rational "studies".
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Post by tory on Jun 3, 2020 8:46:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 9:28:17 GMT
I had the DVD of his visual essay on cinema. Utter nonsense...like a parody of a European intellectual speaking in non sequiturs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 9:30:54 GMT
Has he done a few lines of charlie?
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jun 3, 2020 9:35:51 GMT
I had the DVD of his visual essay on cinema. Utter nonsense...like a parody of a European intellectual speaking in non sequiturs. That's Zizek for you...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 9:37:36 GMT
I agreed with what he said though. Edit: in the video Dougie posted.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 3, 2020 9:39:42 GMT
Has he done a few lines of charlie?
He's higher than George Osbourne at the Tory Xmas party.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Jun 3, 2020 14:15:31 GMT
I'm uneasy with the concept of "white" privilege alone. I don't doubt it exists, but the fact is that privilege will occur in any hierarchy, and all countries have hierarchies of some sort. There's no doubt that in a society whose hierarchy is dominated by one particular racial group that has a certain uniformity to it in terms of language, culture and way of life, the idea of "privilege" will occur. This happens in the USA, it happens in China and I suspect it happens everywhere else where these things are apparent. Societies organise themselves in certain ways and when there are cultures that are distinct and to a certain extent separate, then there's going to be an element of conflict. The Byzantine Empire lasted one thousand years and had what would be considered a very multi-cultural demographic, particularly with regard to its Emperors, indicating that this sort of hierarchical structure we have today based on race is maybe a somewhat new thing. They referred to themselves as "Armenian" or whatever, but there was a sort of supra-ethnic identity that everyone aspired to - being "Roman". This was despite them all speaking Greek rather than Latin. So what exactly are you uneasy about? The fact that privilege of the dominant culture is something that happens in most societies does not make it any less true that white people are privileged in western cultures. As a society - shouldn’t we be addressing this?
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Post by fonz on Jun 3, 2020 21:59:38 GMT
I would say that we addressing it.
There will likely always be behaviour of a racist nature, sometimes with tragic outcome, but that behaviour is more likely to be challenged and called out, not just by ‘virtue-signalling SJWs’, but by ‘ordinary’ people too.
Things may not be moving fast enough, but we are talking about behaviour patterns established over millennia.
I think social media is accelerating the process. Everyone has a voice now, and positive messages are encouraged and reinforced (via ‘likes’ etc). Facebook etc becomes a surrogate moral compass.
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