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Post by tory on Aug 27, 2020 8:48:04 GMT
This is a worthwhile read that shows how ideologically based reporting from both sides is distorting the truth.
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Post by fearlessfreap on Aug 27, 2020 13:28:26 GMT
www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/media/fox-news-tucker-carlson-kenosha-shootings/index.htmlNow I doubt he really believes half the shit he spews, he, like Trump, knows his audience. Trump has no real opinions. His whole Confederate statue, good people on both sides, shithole countries, murderers and rapists, low IQ African American politicians, don't wear masks persona was created for his inbred base. The only thing Trump cares about is himself, he couldn't care less about those things one way or another, but he knows it riles up the moronic hillbillies that show up at his rallies. They are the enemy, not him, and people have to wake up to this. We can't let the stupid decide who the president is, but getting people to vote has always been an issue. The Trumplings will be out in full force. 100 percent of his base of 40 percent will vote, if we're lucky, 60 percent of the 60 percent who don't like him will. I see four more years of this bullshit.
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Aug 27, 2020 16:49:48 GMT
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Post by daveythefatboy on Aug 27, 2020 16:49:48 GMT
This is a worthwhile read that shows how ideologically based reporting from both sides is distorting the truth. I think the willingness to parse also distorts the larger truth. Pull back from all of that Rashomon. What needs to be reconciled is this fact pattern: 1. A black man at the scene of a domestic altercation does not show proper deference to police. He is shot seven times in the back when he enters his car, on the suspicion that he might have a weapon in it. Compare with... 2. A white minor shows up at the site of a brewing protest with a long gun visibly on his person. His presence there violates the very curfew that police are there to enforce. Police see him wandering with that gun and thank him for being there - even offering him a bottle of water. The evening becomes violent. People are shot. The guy with the long gun is allowed to pass, even with his hands up and someone yelling “he shot someone.” How exactly do you explain the discrepancy? What do you imagine would have been the outcome if the same two situations happened, but only the identities of the two principal actors were reversed?
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Post by Sneelock on Aug 27, 2020 17:03:44 GMT
let's take it further. what if black citizens showed up armed? you know, "to keep the peace" the same excuse the militia members used?
Jeff K. posted a meme with Charlie Bucket looking at his Wonka Golden Ticket. the text was something like: conservatives when a police shooting victim has a criminal record.
Tucker Carlson is US TV's prominent conservative voice. He justifies the actions of both the cops AND that teen shooter in Kenosha. that couple that stood in front of BLM protesters waving their guns was invited to the RNC to blow their racist dog whistles long and loud. yeah, there are two sides to every story but some stories are as plain as the nose on your face. IMO this is one of those. Steven Miller is advising the President of the United States that the manipulation of white racial resentment is his ticket to another term. incendiary rhetoric is resulting in extreme behavior. if you think the person you are pointing your gun at isn't a fucking human then you don't hesitate. if other people have done what you are considering doing and haven't really paid a price - these are factors.
that kid was a fucking junior police cadet!
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Aug 27, 2020 17:23:17 GMT
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Post by daveythefatboy on Aug 27, 2020 17:23:17 GMT
At the very least, someone explain how some people have the right to open carry long guns after curfew and others get shot because they might have a knife in their car?
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Post by The Red Heifer on Aug 27, 2020 20:35:14 GMT
The Tucker Carlson defending of the murderer has also found its way down here with the opinion editor of the (Murdoch owned, of course) conservative Sydney shitrag The Daily Telegraph get all huffy when the actual Huffy points out the white kid with a gun is very much one of the guys on his side
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Post by cousinlou on Aug 27, 2020 21:26:43 GMT
At the very least, someone explain how some people have the right to open carry long guns after curfew and others get shot because they might have a knife in their car? You live in the US, so I think this must be a rethorical question.
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Post by fearlessfreap on Aug 31, 2020 15:16:55 GMT
I work in a prison. That smug little shit will not do well there.
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Post by Sneelock on Aug 31, 2020 15:56:06 GMT
prison? I'm guessing Right-Wing pundit and then a seat in congress.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Sept 1, 2020 14:20:44 GMT
Trump is going to Kenosha today even though local politicians and leaders are telling him not to.
Last night in a press conference, he was asked if he condemned Kyle Rittenhouse and his murders of two people. Trump said he understood that the young man was afraid and running for his life and would have died if he hadn't fired his gun.
All video evidence proves otherwise.
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 19, 2021 19:29:34 GMT
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Post by oh oooh on Nov 19, 2021 19:32:08 GMT
I'm lost with all of this now, I have to say.
News rarely helps you with the history behind these stories, they assume you're just catching up.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 19, 2021 19:34:52 GMT
We have a dedicated Wisconsin thread, but nothing for a shithole like Texass!?
You knew this trial was gonna go sideways, the two important ones are still ongoing in Georgia and Virginia.
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 19, 2021 19:36:53 GMT
he shot people who died and he didn't do anything wrong. he got his wish - he's a cop.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 19, 2021 19:39:15 GMT
I think they rushed to trial and should locked this down better. They got cocky thinking the video footage would do their work for them. They hadn't counted on the judge's bias. They'll bring new charges, a different angle.
He'll also be hounded his whole life by judgements brought against him by the families in civil court.
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