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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 20, 2021 12:13:59 GMT
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 20, 2021 13:59:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 14:01:33 GMT
All armed right wingers are essentially cops & all Left Wingers are potential rioters & arsonists. Hard to argue with this. Not that you would want to.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 14:45:04 GMT
One of the issues here is people taking up entrenched binary positions which essentially removes the middle ground where the truth is likely to reside.
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 20, 2021 14:57:57 GMT
It seems to me that guys like Greenwald DO that while presenting themselves as decrying it. I think this is having your cake & eating it too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 15:01:56 GMT
One of the issues here is people taking up entrenched binary positions which essentially removes the middle ground where the truth is likely to reside. Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges in homicide trial
Kyle Rittenhouse has been found not guilty on all counts in his homicide trial, after four days of tense jury deliberations. The 18-year-old became visibly emotional as the verdict was read, seeming to cry and hyperventilate before hugging one of his attorneys.
Conservative politicians around the country celebrated the decision, with GOP congressman Madison Cawthorn offering Mr Rittenhouse an internship, and telling supporters to “be armed, be dangerous, and be moral” while exercising the right to self-defense.
Others, like writer and critic Roxane Gay, said the decision “emboldens white supremacist vigilantes.”
President Joe Biden said he was angry and concerned after the verdict. However he told reporters that he stood by what the jury has concluded, adding: “The jury system works.”
The White House press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters that they were supporting “any effort towards peaceful protests.”
Mr Rittenhouse, 18, was facing five felony charges for shooting three men in the aftermath of police brutality protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin on 25 August 2020.
Kenosha County District Attorney Michael Graveley called for any protests following the verdict to be peaceful.
“We ask that all members of the public accept the verdicts peacefully and not resort to violence,” he wrote in a statement on Friday.
Former president Donald Trump congratulated Rittenhouse on Friday, who is scheduled to speak with Fox News’s Tucker Carlson.
Entrenched views about his views, actions or how fucked up and divided the whole of western culture seems to be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 15:05:41 GMT
It seems to me that guys like Greenwald DO that while presenting themselves as decrying it. I think this is having your cake & eating it too. HIs video seemed reasonable to me. What, specifically, did he say that you objected to or disagreed with?
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 20, 2021 15:13:18 GMT
He is still open to a new state trial, Federal Civil Rights prosecution, and three civil trials. It's not done.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 20, 2021 15:27:40 GMT
The media eh?
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 20, 2021 15:43:19 GMT
G, I don’t find Greenwald reasonable but I won’t pretend to be objective about him. He lost me at “baseless” Look, up until about a year ago I followed him on Twitter. I think that guy has a LOT of axes to grind.
I am often in the situation where watching “Tucker Carlson Tonight” is NOT an option. It is effectively a condition of my employment. Glenn talks about the Big, bad Media on Tucker all the time. FOX News IS media. So is Glenn when he’s on there. We all know he’s not talking about himself or Tucker or Sinclair or others. when he says “media” he means Liberal media. He means “fake news”
You & Jimbo & GB know what sounds reasonable to you. Have at it. I think this guy’s media appearances are on Tucker & Megan Kelly for a reason. I think he singles out joy Reid for a reason. I think he mischaracterizes project Veritas. I think this is a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” situation. When Greenwald argues with the people who used to host him back in the Snowden days he uses Tucker & Megan Kelly’s phrases when he does. He calls them socialists & elites.
I think Glenn is complaining that this is not about race to cushion his seat at the table of people who are working harder than most to do just that - make it about race.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 15:57:23 GMT
Can you separate the message from the messenger? I think you can. I can't comment on all his media appearances, but I did think he spoke a lot of sense in that video, which is all I'm judging him on. Again, what did he say that was wrong?
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 20, 2021 16:06:19 GMT
“Baseless” Remember that whole kerfluffle with the bail money? That Q-Anon #Fight Back guy wants their money back if he walks. He walks. Does Q-Anon get their money back? Is questioning the power of race in # fightbacks appeals for money “baseless”?
I think Glenn is clucking his tongue about tribalism and brandishing his club at the same time.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Nov 20, 2021 16:12:42 GMT
I remember seeing that after it happened. The kid and his buddies were entitled dicks. The thing about lawsuits against corporations is they will pay them off to cut their losses. It's no indication the kid was in the right.
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 20, 2021 16:18:01 GMT
Better a smug smile than a machine gun.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 20, 2021 16:30:27 GMT
I remember seeing that after it happened. The kid and his buddies were entitled dicks. The thing about lawsuits against corporations is they will pay them off to cut their losses. It's no indication the kid was in the right. The kid did nothing wrong but the media tried to destroy him. Disgraceful.
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