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Post by oh oooh on Dec 8, 2020 15:10:46 GMT
There are those photos taken of him in a suit and trilby that came out shortly after he died, that apparently were taken shortly before he died - and he looks fabulous. I'm not altogether sure, however, that they weren't from a few years earlier.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 8, 2020 15:45:51 GMT
I think we can safely say that shit really did start going wrong when Bowie died.
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Post by DarknessFish on Dec 8, 2020 15:51:20 GMT
It went to shit when Lemmy died. That was clearly when reality went wrong, he was supposed to be indestructible. Bowie was just an aftershock.
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Post by oh oooh on Dec 8, 2020 15:51:28 GMT
I think we can safely say that shit really did start going wrong when Bowie died. nearly bumped your 2019 thread earlier - the one where we all said we were looking forward to 2020 😢
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 8, 2020 17:31:26 GMT
I think we can safely say that shit really did start going wrong when Bowie died. nearly bumped your 2019 thread earlier - the one where we all said we were looking forward to 2020 😢 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by Sneelock on Dec 8, 2020 17:32:13 GMT
I'm still looking forward to it... looking forward to it to BE OVER.
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Post by fange on Jun 27, 2021 8:25:18 GMT
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Post by oh oooh on Jun 27, 2021 9:11:01 GMT
Can we talk about this? My take on him was that he desperately wanted to be an important artist, to have that cachet, but when it came to expressing himself, he found he didn't have much of interest or importance that he wanted to say, so he dressed it up with camp and theatre and absurd clothing. I still think these are wise words BUT I would argue that none of our beloved musicians have anything much to 'say'. In fact probably the very best of them aren't saying anything. They just work well as something to project our ideas on to.
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Post by oh oooh on Jun 27, 2021 9:11:33 GMT
and what's 'an important artist' anyway?
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Post by rayge on Jun 27, 2021 9:37:27 GMT
and what's 'an important artist' anyway? Something I think DB wanted to be - you'll have to ask him how he envisaged that
Sorry to be glib, but it really is one of those things we all have our individual take on.
What I meant was, in my view, some people take to creative work because they have some insight, passion, or view of the world, that they desperately want to express, while others - not necessarily less 'talented' - simply enjoy making and sharing things and aren't concerned with the consequence. I identify with the later group, btw, not knocking them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 10:14:39 GMT
Can we talk about this? My take on him was that he desperately wanted to be an important artist, to have that cachet, but when it came to expressing himself, he found he didn't have much of interest or importance that he wanted to say, so he dressed it up with camp and theatre and absurd clothing. I still think these are wise words You do? Rather than not having anything to say, I can't think of another artist from the 70s who had more to say or had such a perceptive grasp on that decade.
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Post by oh oooh on Jun 27, 2021 10:22:40 GMT
Well it depends what you mean by 'say' - that's why I put the word in quotes. But I don't think Bowie had very much to say at all. There's no overreaching message, no philosophy. What Ray says makes perfect sense. But I don't think of it as a flaw. I just like the sounds, the images.
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Post by oh oooh on Jun 27, 2021 10:23:43 GMT
What were the Beatles trying to say? If you set out to work out an answer you'd get nowhere - beyond the sort of half-arsed shite McCartney trots out about 'love each other'.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2021 10:29:56 GMT
Well it depends what you mean by 'say' - that's why I put the word in quotes. But I don't think Bowie had very much to say at all. There's no overreaching message, no philosophy. What Ray says makes perfect sense. But I don't think of it as a flaw. I just like the sounds, the images. Oh I disagree. He represented, and consciously so, a clear move away from the idealism of the 60s into something apocalyptical. He was one of the first to grasp that the 70s would be a very different decade, fragmented and nihilistic.
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Post by oh oooh on Jun 27, 2021 10:39:11 GMT
I see
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