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Post by bungo the mungo on Oct 18, 2020 8:08:14 GMT
no, i think your list was fine, G. it just gave the opportunity for a couple of posters to show off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 8:14:40 GMT
All great, but... Buddy Holly - He's the one that was more "the whole package" than any others. Could write, sing, play, produce- and for good measure was ahead of his time. 60s folk-rock, country-rock, psychedelia, etc...so much music I love owes him a huge debt. Psychedelia? That's a bit of a stretch isn't it?
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Post by fange on Oct 18, 2020 8:39:00 GMT
I see the Everly Bros as R&R, for sure. Wake Up Little Susie, Bird Dog, Till I Kissed You, The Price of Love - a touch of country and pop to their sound, but definitely rock and roll for my money.
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Post by fange on Oct 18, 2020 8:43:01 GMT
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Post by bungo the mungo on Oct 18, 2020 8:49:49 GMT
this is my favourite everly's track. really hits the spot!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 9:03:05 GMT
Great track, but seems closer to a Bo Diddley type of thing. I will accept Ray's final adjudication on this matter.
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Post by rayge on Oct 18, 2020 9:03:23 GMT
I would have included the Everly Bros. I don't think of them as rock n' roll. Maybe I'm wrong in that, I don't know. Nah, you're absolutely right. They were rock & roll like The Stranglers were punk
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Post by rayge on Oct 18, 2020 9:06:47 GMT
I see the Everly Bros as R&R, for sure. Wake Up Little Susie, Bird Dog, Till I Kissed You, The Price of Love - a touch of country and pop to their sound, but definitely rock and roll for my money. More than a touch of pop and country in their F&B Bryant Cadence tracks, especially in the arrangements - sure they rocked out a bit more on WB in the 60s with Gone Gone Gone (though The Price of Love isn't my idea of R&R, with the harmonica suggesting they were climbing aboard the Blooze bandwagon), but not in the 1950s. Wake up Little Susie was the closest they got, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 9:15:56 GMT
Rock n' roll had a very particular rhythm and I don't hear it in their stuff ( from the fifties). I guess they're not a million miles away from Buddy Holly though.
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Post by fange on Oct 18, 2020 9:23:24 GMT
Exactly, G. Not sure you should be listening to all of Ray's adjudications; after all, remember what he says about Soul. Love ya, Ray. But the point is, trying to narrow R&R down to one specific narrow beat or sound is not right. Just like other musics, it has different elements and flavours added by different players.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 18, 2020 10:07:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 10:08:42 GMT
And?
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Post by daveythefatboy on Oct 18, 2020 10:21:33 GMT
I’m pretty sure that everyone listed on this thread is generally accepted as rock n’ roll - or at least a sub-genre of it.
I personally left off guys like Johnny Cash and Charlie Rich because it feels like the larger part of their Venn Diagram lands on country. But they probably fit too.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 18, 2020 11:07:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 11:43:09 GMT
What? I was just curious why you posted it. I'm not a mind-reader!
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