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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Oct 28, 2020 18:43:08 GMT
I don't really like any of them much (I've heard either the whole album or enough of it to make an informed choice).
I voted for the Oasis album 'cos I think it's their strongest. There are songs on the Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, Lauryn Hill, TFC and Prince albums I like - but as a whole the albums are a long way off 'great'.
True Blue is a turd, the U2 and Springsteen efforts aren't far behind.
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Post by DarknessFish on Oct 28, 2020 20:24:40 GMT
I've never heard all of any of those. I've got a couple of Talking Heads album, I like Simon and Garfunkel, and I used to have Tango in the Night on one side of a C90 back when I was about 13, but didn't like it.
Did the critics really raise Teenage Fanclub to that level? Seems strange to include them with the behemoths.
It's difficult to think of big-selling critically acclaimed albums that are that good. Nation of Millions, Enter the Wu-Tang, Bridge Over Troubled Water. That's all I can come up with at that level.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Oct 28, 2020 21:35:11 GMT
Fantastic is a pretty big word for most of these. However, I voted for the following "pretty darned good ones": Rumors - Mostly about Lindsay, of course, but Stevie Nicks' best songs are probably there too, and "Songbird" is a lovely and quite simple song to have a mega-huge expensive album. It really does have something magic about it. Lauren Hill - Not sure why that one and not a thousand others, but maybe she was the first to boldly go where no woman had gone before? Refreshing in any case. Pretzel Logic - I prefer the Royal Scam personally, but that first run is undeniable. It started going south for me on Gaucho. Around the World in a Day - What's not to love? I love Paisley Prince. Paul Fucking Simon - Genius or wanker? As I said there, both. A guy who can write "Silent Eyes" either has soul or is a damn good actor. Hey, I'll take either one. I voted for those too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 22:07:09 GMT
Steely fucking Dan and their sterile yacht rock really hit the spot for so many of you. Bore rock, it's just so smooth and totally FM .We have an abysmal amount of thrift/ charity shop fodder here to be fair.
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Post by cousinlou on Oct 28, 2020 22:32:33 GMT
A third of thIs list hits the ‘ok’ league. None of it is ‘great’
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Post by toomanyhatz on Oct 28, 2020 22:43:44 GMT
Being that Sneelock started this thread, is anyone else shocked that there's no ABBA on the list?
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Post by Sneelock on Oct 29, 2020 18:52:12 GMT
thank goodness I didn't read any reviews of ABBA albums or they almost certainly would be.
I envy those who brag of not having heard most of these. I heard them regardless of if wanted to hear them or not. I was thinking maybe this was specific to my time and location when I heard them. yesterday I was shopping in the Supermarket. I heard Sk8ter Boy and my eyes bugged out. my eyes bugged out because I never willingly played it - not even once. and yet I've heard it literally dozens of times. how does that work? I don't know but it does. most albums on my list I heard, at least in part, through little or no effort of my own.
NOW add the fact that the prevailing critical consensus on most of them was that they were achivements of the vertical bands of light coming out of GOD's own asshole variety. seriously. "the nylon curtain" I heard compared to Sgt Pepper. "true blue" reviews probably were as laudatory as those ABBA reviews I had the good sense to avoid.
the first one I really noticed was "Hotel California". to say it was praised to the skies would be an understatement. every glossy magazine I flipped through seemed to think it was deep like Kierkegaard or something. deep? seriously? by the time I heard it I laughed with a smoker's laugh even though I don't smoke.
"rumors" I took to right away. the main reason is that it seemed to replace "hotel california" in the front of people's stacks almost immediately and for quite a while. thank heavens for small favors.
anyway, I liked living through a time when music followed me around and people played records at their houses instead of Cable News. on the other hand I can still be haunted by the likes of "Sk8ter Boy" so maybe not that much has changed.
I guess I've changed because I don't give a shit if critics rated "Sk8ter Boy" or not.
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Post by npht on Oct 29, 2020 19:55:41 GMT
Oasis and Talking HEads are the only great ones. Few other are good albums.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Oct 29, 2020 20:49:56 GMT
I miss critical consensus. Not that it was generally right - but it was a sign that music still had an important place in the culture. You could steer by critical sentiment. You could see yourself as to the left or right of it. Now all there is is either cacophony or silence. Mostly silence. Music is less important to our culture than a new iPhone app.
Anyhow - of the records listed:
Still “important” to me: Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic Fleetwood Mac - Rumors Paul Simon - Still Crazy After All These Years
Never really “mine” - but I vaguely accept as kind of “important”: Talking Heads - Remain in Light U2 - Rattle and Hum
I once kinda rated them, still like them well-enough, but they’ve lost some sheen: The Eagles - Hotel California Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A Prince - Around the World in a Day Terrence Trent D'Arby - Introducing The Hardline Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of...
Never particularly rated them in the first place: Madonna - True Blue Billy Joel - the Nylon Curtain Oasis - what's the story.. Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Welcome to the Pleasuredome
Kinda missed the whole thing: Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 29, 2020 21:15:16 GMT
Rattle And Hum seems like the odd one out to me - I don't remember anybody, critic or fan, saying that was a FANTASTIC! (or even good) album at the time. In fact I always thought of it as being the one that broke the spell, so to speak - they were very much critics darlings up to that point, and I knew at least one major fan of the group who dropped them like a hot potato after that.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 29, 2020 21:17:38 GMT
Rattle And Hum seems like the odd one out to me - I don't remember anybody, critics or fans, saying that was a FANTASTIC! (or even good) album at the time. Any of these you still see lots of traded in or selling well through your place?
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 29, 2020 21:18:38 GMT
Rattle And Hum seems like the odd one out to me - I don't remember anybody, critics or fans, saying that was a FANTASTIC! (or even good) album at the time. Any of these you still see lots of traded in or selling well through your place? We always have it. It sells, but for very little, and not very often.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 21:36:40 GMT
Any of these you still see lots of traded in or selling well through your place? We always have it. It sells, but for very little, and not very often. Is there anything from the past which still sells regularly that surprises you?
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 29, 2020 22:48:52 GMT
We always have it. It sells, but for very little, and not very often. Is there anything from the past which still sells regularly that surprises you? That's a good question - I'd have to think about it. I know there are at least a few such things that come over the counter and I think I can't believe anyone still cares about this, but I can't conjure any specific titles right now.
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Post by Sneelock on Oct 29, 2020 23:01:14 GMT
Charles might be right about "rattle and hum" but the obvious ones kept cancelling each other out while making the poll. I heard at least some "best live album ever made" talk and naturally it made my eyes cross a little.
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