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Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 29, 2020 19:36:52 GMT
You threw that directly across the plate, but I will refrain from taking a swipe at our UK friends. Why break the habit of a lifetime? I know, i know. I've been reading the works of Dale Carnegie, who published during the 30s. Manson was a big fan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 19:38:44 GMT
So that's how he influenced people!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 20:47:17 GMT
The Spanish Flu, general strike and Newcastle winning the league. I'll stick the 2020s out for the time being.
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Post by fonz on Nov 30, 2020 8:02:11 GMT
I think we’re going to see some truly inspirational new tea-cup designs in the next decade. That’s worth sticking around for.
I think, for the majority of people, the 1920s would have been grim. The cool stuff would have been worlds away from the man on the Clapham omnibus.
Central heating rules!
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Post by DarknessFish on Nov 30, 2020 8:59:03 GMT
2020s. Comfort over creativity.
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Post by cousinlou on Nov 30, 2020 9:02:48 GMT
the 1920s easily. i'd seek out a decadent club and do the black bottom. I'd come with you. We could score some opium from Brilliant Chang ( link) and hang out with the Bright Young Things. Just make sure you will have a time machine that provides you with enough means and shave off 30/40 IQ points or you'll be looked at as a freak.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 9:04:01 GMT
I'm struggling to understand how I'd have more of a sensory experience in the 1920s. If I were an art student in Berlin, maybe, but as an English prole I'd just have a library card and a radio set. Maybe a Noel Coward play or two.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 9:08:18 GMT
I think we’re going to see some truly inspirational new tea-cup designs in the next decade. That’s worth sticking around for. I think, for the majority of people, the 1920s would have been grim. The cool stuff would have been worlds away from the man on the Clapham omnibus. Central heating rules! What's interesting is the arguments being put forward for today are so general and non-specific to the character of the age we live in. Central heating, television, supermarkets..you could put forward those things in the 1970s! And although you may sneer at my tea cup example, the point is that exciting and new design were entering people's homes for the first time due to new mass production methods. That would have been tremendously exciting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 9:10:01 GMT
I'm struggling to understand how I'd have more of a sensory experience in the 1920s. If I were an art student in Berlin, maybe, but as an English prole I'd just have a library card and a radio set. Maybe a Noel Coward play or two. Art, literature, new forms like jazz, opening of cinemas on a mass scale...
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Nov 30, 2020 9:10:28 GMT
You think the average person would have been 'tremendously excited' by that? honestly?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 9:26:38 GMT
You think the average person would have been 'tremendously excited' by that? honestly? Yes if you were a culturally alive, curious person. Also what people forget is that people were far more adept at creating their own entertainment. People would make things and display real skill and love in what they did. We are so locked into consumption as answer to happiness, that we can no longer imagine the alternatives.
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Post by tory on Nov 30, 2020 9:30:14 GMT
I'm rereading Patrick Leigh Fermor's "A Time of Gifts" at the moment, in which he, at 18, walked from the Hook of Holland to Constantinople in 1933. That sort of thing can be done now obviously, but it wouldn't be the same as it was then. That sense of borders not being so "set in stone", rural villages that were genuinely anachronistic, and the world not being so modern was very obvious in the twenties, less so in say, the sixties and now gone.
I get what G is saying - in some respects it would have been a world more open to exploring, whereas today I think there is a sense that we are over that hill and beyond - where the world is much more finite. Obviously, a post-1945 mindset has the Holocaust to contend with as well, which is something people in the 20s didn't. The power of the Russian Revolution would have been something that many people would have been genuinely thrilled about, even if they knew nothing of what it actually entailed.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Nov 30, 2020 9:30:53 GMT
You think the average person would have been 'tremendously excited' by that? honestly? Yes if you were a culturally alive, curious person. Also what people forget is that people were far more adept at creating their own entertainment. People would make things and display real skill and love in what they did. We are so locked into consumption as answer to happiness, that we can no longer imagine the alternatives. No, I just think you're an incurable romantic.
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Post by tory on Nov 30, 2020 9:57:46 GMT
Britain would have been a powerhouse of manufacturing. Most men i suspect would be capable of making something - skills like carpentry for example would have been far more widespread than they are now. Most of us would have had either rural agricultural backgrounds or we would have been involved in industrial manufacturing.
That is disappearing now.
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Post by rayge on Nov 30, 2020 9:58:17 GMT
More romanticising from the William Morris set. The 2020s might be the boring here-and-now, but at least we've got inside loos, decent supermarkets and TVs. Sorry to be so prosaic. Not to mention antibiotics, cancer screening, TV, a welfare state (tattered remains), the NHS (ditto), fridges, LSD, just to mention a few of the formative inventions since the 1920s...
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