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Post by rayge on Aug 17, 2021 13:37:31 GMT
A Drumbo - To the Loft of Ravenscroft B Dalbello – Cardinal Sin
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Post by fearlessfreap on Aug 17, 2021 16:28:28 GMT
I'll take A Mr. French has written a lovely tribute to Thurl Ravenscroft
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Aug 17, 2021 17:37:12 GMT
The Dalbello video is unavailable here (even though she's Canadian), but it's a lousy track anyway.
Has John French ever done anything that doesn't sound like Beefheart? It's a jaunty little number, I'll give it that. Slightly better than Penguin Café Orchestra.
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Post by Sneelock on Aug 17, 2021 18:02:00 GMT
I liked both way better than I expected. French really lets it swing by the tracks end but it's pretty tame until he gets there. I'll give this one to B I have no idea who that is or when it's from or what genre it purports to be but it sure sounds good to me right now. I'm taking my head OUT of the oven and going on living just because I happened to listen to that.
just kidding. it's okay but I like it a wee bit better than Drumbo. at least there's no Bowie this time!
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Post by toomanyhatz on Aug 17, 2021 19:21:12 GMT
A, despite being done by a conservative jackass. B is sort of sub-Kate Bush. Interesting, but not for me ultimately.
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Post by DarknessFish on Aug 17, 2021 19:35:10 GMT
There's almost something of the U.S. Maple about the guitar playing, and while I guess the influence obviously originally came from this direction, it doesn't half sound like he's trying to catch up, but can't leave the jazzy/prog sound behind. There's almost something there, but it all feels so restrained, so ... muso. Everything in its place, free, but only so free. And that irks a little.
This track might've been used before, I can't remember. I only recognise it because I know last time she appeared here, I discovered that Queensryche's "Gotta Get Close To You" (their greatest track, by a long way, imo) was a cover of a Dalbello track. It's a really clunky production effort isn't it, as flat as Prince at his peak. No sir, I do not like this. Could've been ok perhaps, with a better arrangement/producer/idea, but it leaves me very cold indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 7:54:32 GMT
I have to say this is the worst tie not just in the round but in the whole competition. Sorry pickers, but this is really bad.
Apparently A is intended as a tribute to John Peel. Why the artist thought prog fusion was a good way of doing this I don't know, seems to have been the last thing he'd have wanted to listen to. It's fussy, way overworked and sounds like Zappa. The kind of thing that should have been left in the 70s along with rabies and flares.
B, sadly, is no better. It's going for a brash, strident new wave sound - there's more than a touch of the Hazel O' Connors about it, not a good thing obviously. Some of the sounds on it are truly horrible.
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Post by rayge on Aug 18, 2021 9:40:37 GMT
Apparently A is intended as a tribute to John Peel. No it isn't. The youtuber is a numpty. Freap got it right. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 9:43:51 GMT
Apparently A is intended as a tribute to John Peel. No it isn't. The youtuber is a numpty. Freap got it right. Ah fair enough. It's still prog bollocks though. |
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Post by oleandermedian on Aug 20, 2021 10:47:15 GMT
Things take a progward turn with A. Downward, too. However, B sounds like something you’d hear in a trendy bar in Bavaria.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Aug 20, 2021 19:47:05 GMT
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Post by osgood on Aug 21, 2021 6:21:37 GMT
Well, two picks I can listen without looking forward to them finishing. That's something. B is okish but forgettable, anyway I would not run away if I see that name again.
But A was definitely something interesting and to be filed under 'Cup discoveries'. I find all that interplay going on very much up my street.
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Post by oh oooh on Aug 21, 2021 7:44:56 GMT
Both had nice bits and shit bits.
I think
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was more tolerable on a rainy Saturday morning
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Post by rayge on Aug 21, 2021 13:39:11 GMT
A nice surprise, this. Hadn't heard anything Mr French put out under his own name before - not what I expected, although full of Beefheartian touches, and for once, the TUBS weren't annoying. Partiularly liked the clarinet/soprano sax/whatever lines. I can see how G dismissed it as prog (ptui-clang, to borrow a meme), but he's just wrong. And not for the first time  . There have been a lot of Canadians in this cup, or so it seems to me, and Occupants cannot be blamed for all of them. The synth sound is OK, but the treated voices and electronic percussion aren't, at least to my augmented ears. That 'All day, all night' bit is lifted from somewhere*. Nah, this one is an A
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 13:53:12 GMT
I can see how G dismissed it as prog (ptui-clang, to borrow a meme), but he's just wrong. And not for the first time . If this had come out of Canterbury you'd be dismissing it, but because of the Beefheart connection it gets a free pass. I have your number Ray.  |
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