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Post by Reactionary Rage on Oct 6, 2021 17:04:21 GMT
The 60s through 90s were also unique in the British music presence, but by the end of the 90s that became very generic: Oasis, Elbow, Menswear, etc., to the point now that the UK is no longer in the conversation. classic GAV It's the Brits fault! Ungrateful swine that he is! Rock is dead. Died in the 90s...Nirvana were the last rock band with cultural heft that united the playground and the music weeklies. The White Stripes were maybe the last gasp though of something refreshingly primal and sexual. Of course there are still rock bands doing their thing but so underground as to barely scratch the surface (the Foo Fighters are a housewife's idea of a rock band).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 17:06:08 GMT
This is a strange place to be having the conversation about the music being dead, because many here stopped listening. So did the music stop or the listener? The hostility in the Cup to new music was pathetic. I honestly don't think there's anyone who disliked the picks (and some new things did get a positive reception) merely because they were new. But if something sounds like a pallid, uninspired retread of something from 1979, do you really expect people to overlook that and instead feign some enthusiasm just because it was released in 2019? Releasing a record in the last five years is not an achievement in and of itself.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 6, 2021 17:08:22 GMT
classic GAV It's the Brits fault! Ungrateful swine that he is! Rock is dead. Died in the 90s...Nirvana were the last rock band with cultural heft that united the playground and the music weeklies. The White Stripes were maybe the last gasp though of something refreshingly primal and sexual. Of course there are still rock bands doing their thing but so underground as to barely scratch the surface (the Foo Fighters are a housewife's idea of a rock band). Thanks 000, your pajamas are at the bottom of the stairs, nite nite
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 6, 2021 17:14:41 GMT
It is interesting it is always the same "unlistening three" who take umbrage when their pat view is challenged. Oh, well
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 17:20:13 GMT
I'm not taking umbrage, I'm trying to engage with what you're saying.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Oct 6, 2021 17:26:32 GMT
The problem with 'rock music in general' is it's been done to death. Do it now and it's almost inevitably some kind of attempt at 'throwback.' Occasionally you get someone that either attaches enough of their own personality to it to make it 'new' even when it really isn't (Jack White) or is good at capturing the 'spirit' of a sound rather than just trying to copy it outright (The Strokes for a song or two, anyway).
Don't go by me, though. I've always been into things that are, at least to some degree, a 'fusion' of different elements. Rock & roll at its birth was very much that. Copies of rock & roll are very much not. Make it your own somehow and I won't mind if it sounds exactly like something recorded in a suburban garage in '65. It'll still be 'new.'
'Rock music in general', if that's all it is, pretty much holds no interest for me.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Oct 6, 2021 17:26:33 GMT
It's the Brits fault! Ungrateful swine that he is! Rock is dead. Died in the 90s...Nirvana were the last rock band with cultural heft that united the playground and the music weeklies. The White Stripes were maybe the last gasp though of something refreshingly primal and sexual. Of course there are still rock bands doing their thing but so underground as to barely scratch the surface (the Foo Fighters are a housewife's idea of a rock band). Thanks 000, your pajamas are at the bottom of the stairs, nite nite Go suck my meaty Brit cock Gav
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Post by Sneelock on Oct 6, 2021 17:37:22 GMT
I believe it was Huey Lewis who said the heart of rock and roll is still beating. so long is there is ONE speed freak in a Motörhead t-shirt then Rock and Roll will be alive and well.
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Post by clive gash on Oct 6, 2021 17:42:39 GMT
You lads just need to chill and let GRETA VAN FLEET into your lives.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 6, 2021 17:44:06 GMT
Thanks 000, your pajamas are at the bottom of the stairs, nite nite Go suck my meaty Brit cock Gav I guess we have reached the end of your wits and resources, Beatles broke up, Bowie died, rock sucks, sorry for your loss. Good thing your wearing a mask, less spittle, I guess.
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Post by Sneelock on Oct 6, 2021 17:48:15 GMT
Everybody TWIST!!!
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 6, 2021 18:32:24 GMT
Go suck my meaty Brit cock Gav I guess we have reached the end of your wits and resources, Beatles broke up, Bowie died, rock sucks, sorry for your loss. Good thing your wearing a mask, less spittle, I guess. YOU'RE
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 19:19:54 GMT
Just a 4/4 beat with a load of wailing over the top, couple of chord changes to get kids excited. We've moved on from that for good now anyway....haven't we? Lots of math-rock bands play outside the 4/4 beat but then so did Genesis, King Crimson and Pink Floyd etc. Yeah younger folk prefer podcasts and Netflix shows probably how they are exposed to music when the director uses an old Stones track or some Mazzy Star in a scene or two.....to be honest I don't discuss music with Joe Public cause it just annoys me so the fact it's no longer as popular with young people is irrelevant... Also believe there are other genres of music emerging that have more to do with the medium than an actual genre, lots of talented prodigies emerging with their own way of communicating their musical ideas etc. But the rock and roll of Chuck Berry or the Fall is pretty much gone....not been helped by the shut down of bars and clubs due to the "virus that shall not be named etc.."
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 6, 2021 19:26:41 GMT
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Post by sloopjohnc on Oct 6, 2021 19:55:15 GMT
It's the whole streaming thing - there is so much new music and cable movies who can keep track?
I subscribe to allmusic.com, as I'm sure some of you do too, and every week I get a list of new releases, total, editors' choices and featured.
I was checking out a debut album by a band called Motorists. Got decent review on allmusic.com. I listened and it was Televisionesque without half the artistry of Verlaine and Richard Lloyd.
Made me feel like maybe the rock 'n' roll path is too furrowed. There doesn't seem to be a ton of exploration except more the pop landscape, and you're going to hate me for this, people like Harry Styles and Olivia Rodrigo.
In the end, I like that young people are still making music and giving it a try. A couple are bound to find lightning in a bottle.
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