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Post by cousinlou on Nov 15, 2021 14:00:42 GMT
It's funny how you remember some things, sometimes all your life, while other things have come in at one stage and left soon after.
In the small street where I lived untill I was 12 orso, the other side was made up of one third Church and two thirds school. No neighbours on the other side. We would play football in front of the church that had a little space for church goers to park the cars on sundays but the rest of the week it was practically empty. Right from the main entrance that faced the square, there was a huge, dark wooden cross. I estimate about 4 meters high. Instead of goals we would use the cross as the 'goal'.
Left from the entrance were bushes where the ball would land from time to time. Even further left was the corner of the building that had a plaque in the wall. Engraved in it were the words:
' verily,
this place is sacred
but I don't realize'
I have seen the plaque hundreds of times while searching for our ball but it would always leave me dumbfounded how it was possible to state something with some authority ('verily') and to close off saying you don't realize.
Over 50 years later, I still remember the exact text and can visualise what the plaque looked like and recall my bewilderment about it.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 15, 2021 14:09:16 GMT
I remember my ass getting beat by the priests and a classroom exorcism in the seventh grade.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Nov 15, 2021 17:59:44 GMT
People have told me I have a good memory, but lately I've discovered that some of my memories are false memories, meaning I've filled in details that didn't actually exist. I was certain they happened, but there's been some pretty strong evidence they didn't or I grabbed them from another past occuurrence to fill in gaps about what happened or wanted to have happened.
It's strange when that happens.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 15, 2021 18:06:09 GMT
My dad has been cognitively declining. His long term memory is excellent but his short memory not so much until it becomes long term memory. Mental imagery, sound, smell has been found to be a huge part of long term recollection, all collected and assessed in the v1/v2 visual cortex/pathway of the brain.
Whilst working with him, having a friend live with us repairing from TBI and doing research for my own work I have come to learn and see the Mediterranean Diet long recommended for a healthy heart has also been shown to be successful for maintaining cognition. There is also a variant called the MIND diet. Our brains are primarily fatty acids, Omega 3s (less so 6 and 9) are really really important, think cold water fish and bivalves. Due to poor diets of highly processed foods rich in Omega 6 and 9, but not 3 many people's brains are literally dry, starved for fatty acids. Long term drinkers can present with dementia due to low reserves of B-1 (Thiamine). Alcohol is a drying agent, regular drinking also strip-mines nutrients from your brain. There have also been some tests suggesting the importance of B-6 (pyridoxine) in its active form P5P (pyridoxal)in successful long term cognition. Walking is supremely important in maintaining brain plasticity which in turn is how the brain heals and develops new pathways for everything including cognition.
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 15, 2021 18:25:04 GMT
I remember my ass getting beat by the priests and a classroom exorcism in the seventh grade. The first exorcism is always the most memorable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 18:40:42 GMT
Everything I have to say I said before on the previous memory thread.
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Nov 15, 2021 20:29:39 GMT
Post by sloopjohnc on Nov 15, 2021 20:29:39 GMT
My dad has been cognitively declining. His long term memory is excellent but his short memory not so much until it becomes long term memory. Mental imagery, sound, smell has been found to be a huge part of long term recollection, all collected and assessed in the v1/v2 visual cortex/pathway of the brain. Whilst working with him, having a friend live with us repairing from TBI and doing research for my own work I have come to learn and see the Mediterranean Diet long recommended for a healthy heart has also been shown to be successful for maintaining cognition. There is also a variant called the MIND diet. Our brains are primarily fatty acids, Omega 3s (less so 6 and 9) are really really important, think cold water fish and bivalves. Due to poor diets of highly processed foods rich in Omega 6 and 9, but not 3 many people's brains are literally dry, starved for fatty acids. Long term drinkers can present with dementia due to low reserves of B-1 (Thiamine). Alcohol is a drying agent, regular drinking also strip-mines nutrients from your brain. There have also been some tests suggesting the importance of B-6 (pyridoxine) in its active form P5P (pyridoxal)in successful long term cognition. Walking is supremely important in maintaining brain plasticity which in turn is how the brain heals and develops new pathways for everything including cognition. Now I feel bad for having those bbq corn chips at lunch.
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Nov 15, 2021 21:01:02 GMT
Post by tory on Nov 15, 2021 21:01:02 GMT
There are whole dusty boxes of slides that my Dad took between 1975 and 1982 or so, which will contain pictures of me from the age of 1 to 9 at my sister's, waiting to alight the dark corridors of my memory. In many cases I will have no recollection of them because my memory of anything before the age of 5 is hazy to say the least.
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Nov 15, 2021 21:10:59 GMT
Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 15, 2021 21:10:59 GMT
There are whole dusty boxes of slides that my Dad took between 1975 and 1982 or so, which will contain pictures of me from the age of 1 to 9 at my sister's, waiting to alight the dark corridors of my memory. In many cases I will have no recollection of them because my memory of anything before the age of 5 is hazy to say the least. Which is normal, due to the amount and intensity of growth one undergoes, physically, mentally, physiogically, etc., from baby to toddler, etc., This "not remembering" was a major component of the False Memory Syndrome/recovered memory movement of the 80s and early 90s which resulted in devastating impact on those accused (falsely) of crimes, the patients, and worldwide psychological research, and took a major FBI umbrella investigation to clear many of the falsely accused. I remember for a period in the 80s, after the McMartin School scandal it seemed almost weekly there were new accusations, scandals, abuses, which really chilled schooling, teaching, families with young children, lots of pedophile paranoia, lots of witch hunts.
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Nov 15, 2021 21:48:47 GMT
Post by sloopjohnc on Nov 15, 2021 21:48:47 GMT
My very first memories are of my brother in foot casts because he had club feet which needed an operation.
The other vivid memory I had was pretending to duel this kid like in a western movie at a gas station in Idaho on a family trip.
I was four.
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Nov 16, 2021 15:06:25 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 16, 2021 15:06:25 GMT
I'm fascinated by how memory works. The things we remember, the things we forget. How memories and the stories that develop from them can change and develop over time becoming something new. How reliable are they? How truthful? How can we access the original memory? How much of our memories and stories are just that...stories, self constructed narratives that are emotionally satisfying to us?
I was often struck when stoned and during that kind of post peak high-dream state when you are starting to nod out how memories that were long forgotten could pop into your head with a vividness that was striking. It was like entering a dream state but one where the past seemed very real and tactile and I used to think "is this state always there somehow"? Is it just waiting there for us to enable the tools so we can access it? It was almost like a gift to be able to do that yet it remains so often tantalisingly out of reach. How much of our memory just lays there dormant and how odd that something can lay dormant for years and decades before popping up again? You know when people with dementia seem to start living in the past and they can access these memories? What the fuck is all that about?
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