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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 17:03:16 GMT
I made the fatal mistake of including Blue Oyster Cult's Godzilla in the BCB '70s cup and it got demolished, except for a couple Americans - Kath, Sneelock, etc. I entered it because it's funny and I think it's a pretty great hard rock song. A couple other folks submitted '70s hard rock and they got killed too.
As a teenager in the '70s, I unironically loved hard rock - Zeppelin, AC/DC, Montrose, Van Halen, etc. It was a great outlet for my teenage testosterone and frustration. As I got older, I gravitated more towards punk as an outlet, and punk dealt with social and political hypocrisy, which spoke to me more.
Thrash, which kinda led to today's metal, was kinda out of my wheelhouse, but I very quickly grew to love them, and still really like some modern metal. In San Francisco, the nexus of punk and thrash was all on Broadway, and the two grew to mix pretty well, if not in crowds, but in the music.
I can still listen to hard rock pretty much non-stop if I wanted. Newer metal takes a little more out of me, but I still enjoy a lot of newer bands.
Do you like hard rock and metal and where's your cut off between old stuff and newer stuff?
Granted, you need a little suspension of disbelief for hard rock or have to give it a pass on some of the dumb lyrics, but like with hip hop, I just take it as a whole and ignore certain parts because other parts are so enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 20:16:17 GMT
Plenty, though I'm not sure of the various sub-genre definitions and I'm wary of saying I like anything Metal. As a teenager I quite liked the NWOBHM - the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, but the less said about that now the better.
What's wrong with Blue Oyster Cult? I only own a tattered 7" of 'Don't Fear The Reaper' but saw them live last decade and they rocked. Ignore those superior types like Coan, they just like shouty blokes.
Poodle rock is out, cock rock is out, but the musicianship of Zep is in another league. I like the ocker rock of AC/DC for other reasons. I never got into punk - punk was the domaine of the trendy little rich girls I went to school with who were so cutting edge and angry but who ended up being doctors and bank managers and holistic healers. Fuck 'em.
I'm a big fan of Faith No More which leads me to funk rock but FNM are more driven and intelligent I'd say than the Red Hot Chilli Peppers and certainly than the legion of rock bands of the early 2000s they were said to have influenced.
It's a huge subject and huge subjects are better written about by the likes of Rayge, though he's no rocker.
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Post by DarknessFish on Jan 10, 2019 20:42:50 GMT
I generally can't stand 'hard rock', I don't get its purpose, it seems to lack energy as a genre, and the songs are almost universally banal. Y'know, the guitars are loud, but only loud in a way that makes them slightly more threatening than Simply Red, the drums are only there to keep time, and the vocals are an overwrought load of shite about inserting genitalia into as many orifices as possible.
Metal though, yeah, I tend to the extreme, and still listen to black metal fairly regularly, though I'd like more albums from the genre. If we're looking for lighter stuff, in the thrash section I still love Sabbat, some Metallica, Rage, and I even found myself loving Anthrax's Among the Living just the other night. From the cheesier end of the spectrum, I refuse to apologise for my love of classic Candlemass.
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Post by Sneelock on Jan 10, 2019 23:52:44 GMT
whoever likes the most stuff wins. that's muh rulin'
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Post by jeffk on Jan 11, 2019 0:08:55 GMT
No any more.
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Post by lynxtt on Jan 11, 2019 1:08:25 GMT
I have really come to love classic 70s hard rock, since getting a turntable recently. Lots of cheap good sounding pressings of out of favor bands.
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Post by Reasonable good Nick on Jan 11, 2019 11:54:44 GMT
Yeah, loads. Metal and hard rock was about all I listened to between the ages of 15 and 17. A lot of it I look back on and cringe, but there's also much I was into then that still sounds great, especially the more extreme stuff - thrash, doom, death, grindcore, early black metal, that sort of caper.
The last few years I've been playing catch up with a lot of the stuff I missed after I drifted away from metal circa early 1991. I like a lot of the Scandinavian black metal stuff - Mayhem, Darkthrone, Emperor, Burzum etc.
And there are some very good contemporary metal bands out there, especially on the doom/stoner axis side of things - Sunn O))), Bell Witch, Electric Wizard, Meshuggah, Wolves in the Throne Room, Rotting Christ, Opeth, Mastodon etc etc.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 11, 2019 12:55:05 GMT
I went through a Metallica phase when I was about 22. I think every white working class music fan in Scotland does something similar.
Occasionally when I'm drunk I'll stick on Master of Puppets or Ride The Lightning or Reign In Blood but that's it.
It's silly music really.
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Post by Reasonable good Nick on Jan 11, 2019 13:43:30 GMT
Silly old Dougie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 13:46:52 GMT
No I was not ever interested. Early 70s hard rock like Free is about as far as I'll go.
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Post by oh oooh on Jan 11, 2019 13:50:06 GMT
No I was not ever interested. Early 70s hard rock like Free is about as far as I'll go. You've come around to Led Zep in recent years, haven't you G? And Montrose are pretty damned good - give this a go: if it's your ONLY type of music though then I think it's a safe bet to assume you're a prick
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 11, 2019 13:52:43 GMT
It's a lifestyle thing, innit?
But, yeah, if it's metal and little else then you wouldn't want to sit next to them on the bus.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 14:12:13 GMT
No I was not ever interested. Early 70s hard rock like Free is about as far as I'll go. You've come around to Led Zep in recent years, haven't you G? And Montrose are pretty damned good - give this a go: if it's your ONLY type of music though then I think it's a safe bet to assume you're a prick
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 14:16:38 GMT
Sorry I meant to quote that and comment ( I haven't got use to quoting on here yet). That was getting too into metal territory for my tastes. Unless the riff's really memorable (which that wasn't) I tend to find it too dull. I have come round to Zep though it's true, but even with them the heavy blues-rock stuff from the first two albums is my least favourite thing about them. I thought they got better as they went on.
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Post by joels344 on Jan 11, 2019 16:29:47 GMT
Not as much these days. Perhaps in my past I was more into hard rock/metal, but I find most hard rock pretty grating now and full of genre cliches that many bands just embrace and seem to have little interest in driving rock music into a different or unique direction. Which goes against most things I tend to appreciate in music. I mean, there's some classic hard rock that I still greatly love like The Who, Deep Purple, Motörhead, and The Stooges, but these groups had a strong sense of style, interesting riff/hooks, and innovation. The genre as a whole just does very little for me anymore. As far as metal is concerned, I don't find it nearly as appealing as I did 10-12 years ago, but I still love some black metal, avant-garde metal, and drone/doom metal. Bands like Burzum, maudlin of the Well, and Sunn O))) will always have a special place in my heart.
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