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Post by Stacy Heydon on Oct 21, 2022 0:57:25 GMT
..when you have Nanette
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 21, 2022 1:50:17 GMT
It is still a problematic song about killing a woman. They trounce any melodic value the song has.
Along with Morning Dew, part of the web of Tim Rose songwriting claims.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Oct 21, 2022 9:34:00 GMT
It is still a problematic song about killing a woman. They trounce any melodic value the song has. Along with Morning Dew, part of the web of Tim Rose songwriting claims. Cancel Hey Joe! Nice version but Hendrix is still definitive for me. A transcendent record. |
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Oct 21, 2022 12:50:17 GMT
It is still a problematic song about killing a woman. They trounce any melodic value the song has. Along with Morning Dew, part of the web of Tim Rose songwriting claims. Cancel Hey Joe! Nice version but Hendrix is still definitive for me. A transcendent record. Yeah I agree. I did hear a really good soul version, heavy on the organ, with gospel female vocals. But the mixtape it was on didn't give a tracklisting. It was in searching for that, that I came across this. It's one of those songs that doesn't seem to produce bad versions....there's something about the inherent drama of the song that brings out great performances. |
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Post by toomanyhatz on Oct 22, 2022 6:12:57 GMT
Never thought much of the song in general, tbh. But (minority opinion #2) I think both the Leaves and Byrds versions are superior to Hendrix’s.
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Post by peter on Oct 22, 2022 15:38:52 GMT
It's too one note. He does his best with it but it's almost not worthy of his talent.
The ear-wormy melody got him a foothold in the UK charts and the rest is history. How different would things have been without Hey Joe?
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Oct 22, 2022 15:47:00 GMT
It's too one note. He does his best with it but it's almost not worthy of his talent. The ear-wormy melody got him a foothold in the UK charts and the rest is history. How different would things have been without Hey Joe? Good question. Would Purple Haze have been a hit? |
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Post by *LORD 'X'* on Oct 22, 2022 16:18:45 GMT
Hendrix's version? I reckon so.
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Post by loveless on Oct 22, 2022 20:39:51 GMT
Jimi's record of "Hey Joe" is essential and definitive for me.
I think the backing vocals (among other things) really make it.
Also, the pace of the track (cool, calm, confident), the sound of his guitar (the intro is amazing, in that Eb tuning), and the fact that "the chorus", such as it is, is his guitar solo. It's not like the first time anyone ever played a groovy solo, but it manages to be so casual (less spazzy and showy than "Hang On Sloopy" or "Shapes of Things"), which is a real show of strength.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 23, 2022 18:11:06 GMT
How different would things have been without Hey Joe? I agree about the tune being below his talent. Purple Haze would chart higher in the UK. Jimi wasn't really a singles artist, it was just the industry dictates of the day, which varied depending on the country/market. He moved albums. He won audiences over by live shows, which made him the highest paid live act from mid '67 - 'his death in '70. The excitement he generated amongst his peers dictated strategic next steps towards success which were album and touring based. He didn't need singles. |
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 24, 2022 23:22:05 GMT
In those days, everybody needed a hit single to get a foot in the door. Are You Experienced probably wouldn't have been recorded/released if he hadn't already had at least one hit single going into it (he had three).
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 25, 2022 13:04:17 GMT
Let's not forget Hendrix's expenses were paid through a self contained production deal (Yameta), no record company involved. Also he along with the The Who were part of the deal that got Track Records their financial backing from Polydor, before he recorded anything. Thus he had a record deal and was already touring whilst recording.
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 25, 2022 15:37:44 GMT
That may be, but I still maintain that there wouldn't have been much enthusiasm on Polydor's part for an album release if the singles had flopped.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 25, 2022 16:02:24 GMT
Possibly, if the deals were done after the singles but they weren't.
Then how about the US, first four singles flop, then Haze gets to #65, yet the album sold 1 million copies within six months.
Singles, irrelevant, AM radio, irrelevant
underground/progressive FM, touring, and album sales
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Post by Sneelock on Oct 25, 2022 17:47:18 GMT
I'd like to stand between two sides of a very interesting discussion to interject something...
I think "Hey Joe" by the JHE is Super Cool.
carry on.
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