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Post by Sneelock on Oct 25, 2022 17:53:25 GMT
it's like "Stagger Lee" - it's a hell of a thing for a popular song to be about. it stuck in the mind for that very reason. Also, I'm one of those guys who loves Hendrix' singing.
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 25, 2022 18:20:31 GMT
Possibly, if the deals were done after the singles but they weren't. You're saying the deal guaranteed Hendrix an LP release? Very unusual, if true. Then how about the US, first four singles flop, then Haze gets to #65, yet the album sold 1 million copies within six months. Singles, irrelevant, AM radio, irrelevant A lot changed in the wake of Sgt. Pepper and the Monterey Pop Festival (both of which happened before his US record deal). Even so, his singles success in the UK can't have gone unnoticed by Reprise.
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Post by *LORD 'X'* on Oct 25, 2022 18:24:55 GMT
Never thought much of the song in general, tbh. But ( minority opinion #2) I think both the Leaves and Byrds versions are superior to Hendrix’s. I've never seen that spelling of 'daft' before
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 25, 2022 18:32:44 GMT
Possibly, if the deals were done after the singles but they weren't. You're saying the deal guaranteed Hendrix an LP release? Very unusual, if true. Then how about the US, first four singles flop, then Haze gets to #65, yet the album sold 1 million copies within six months. Singles, irrelevant, AM radio, irrelevant A lot changed in the wake of Sgt. Pepper and the Monterey Pop Festival (both of which happened before his US record deal). Even so, his singles success in the UK can't have gone unnoticed by Reprise. His deal was in '66. Track Records was set up with him in mind. AYE was finished in late April '67, released in the UK/Europe in May '67, Monterey was Aug, '67, released in US a seven days after Monterey. Shakes head, Beatlefans.
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 25, 2022 18:38:27 GMT
Not his US deal, which is what we were talking about there. Read!
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 25, 2022 18:42:16 GMT
His deal was in '66. Track Records was set up with him in mind. AYE was finished in late April '67, released in the UK/Europe in May '67, Monterey was Aug, '67, released in US a seven days after Monterey.
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 25, 2022 18:50:33 GMT
I know all that. What's yer point?
Let's take this back to the starting point. You said singles were irrelevant to Hendrix's success. I pointed out that he'd had three major hit singles before his album was released. That much is fact - the rest is speculation. Maybe your speculation is right, maybe mine is - we'll never actually know. But I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the hit singles "primed the pump" for a hit LP, as well as for his (entirely separate) US deal.
ONCE HE WAS ESTABLISHED, singles may have been irrelevant, as they became for Pink Floyd once they were established. But would they have become so established so quickly without those first 45s? Neither of us can know that for certain.
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Post by *LORD 'X'* on Oct 25, 2022 18:55:04 GMT
Singles aren't serious enough for Gav
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 25, 2022 19:09:02 GMT
I know all that. What's yer point? Let's take this back to the starting point. You said singles were irrelevant to Hendrix's success. I pointed out that he'd had three major hit singles before his album was released. That much is fact - the rest is speculation. Maybe your speculation is right, maybe mine is - we'll never actually know. But I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the hit singles "primed the pump" for a hit LP, as well as for his (entirely separate) US deal. ONCE HE WAS ESTABLISHED, singles may have been irrelevant, as they became for Pink Floyd once they were established. But would they have become so established so quickly without those first 45s? Neither of us can know that for certain. I guess two things, following: How different would things have been without Hey Joe?Not much, Jimi already had his deal, his costs were paid by Yameta not the record company. Track was set up with him in mind, they simply distributed his Yameta paid for product as did Reprise. HIs singles' failure in the US had NO impact on his Reprise deal or the album's overall sales/success.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 25, 2022 19:14:46 GMT
Singles aren't serious enough for Gav Singles are fine. Hendrix's arrival, the rise of US underground/progressive FM radio and Chandler's faith in Hendrix's showmanship and touring ability convinced Chandler/Jefferies it was a gamble worth taking and NOT to approach this conventionally. They didn't. They covered their recording costs, cut distribution deals and cut out promoters by controlling the gate. It ain't the Beatles.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 25, 2022 19:23:31 GMT
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 25, 2022 19:24:15 GMT
Paul McCartney got Hendrix onto the Monterey bill, THO.
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