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Mar 29, 2023 13:57:34 GMT
Post by *LORD 'X'* on Mar 29, 2023 13:57:34 GMT
Choose one.
Say why.
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Mar 29, 2023 14:11:47 GMT
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 29, 2023 14:11:47 GMT
Oh 'She Is Beyond..' C'MON! Extraordinary record - it's like a kind of pagan, ritualistic funk, but I love the way they use dub, the little bits of drop and surge give the record such urgency. Probably their one moment of true genius (although I'm open to persuasion on some of the others). I don't have much to say on the other- solid radio pop of the time, a little bland, but not that disagreeable.
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Mar 29, 2023 14:52:42 GMT
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Post by DarknessFish on Mar 29, 2023 14:52:42 GMT
Yay! A rare poll where I don't have to be the snarky negative one. Obviously, The Pop Group are closer to my core taste of vaguely experimental post-punk, and win the vote here, but I will stand-up for the dull muso pop stylings of Level 42 any day of the week, too. Mike Lindup may well have been my childhood musical hero, but it's quite lovely how every single member of the band is distinctly uncool in their own way.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 29, 2023 14:58:19 GMT
I will stand-up for the dull muso pop stylings of Level 42 any day of the week, too. I think that's understimating their occultic power. Look at the video: Mark King is possessed with a Dionysian frenzy. Western values mean nothing to him!
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Mar 29, 2023 15:37:23 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Mar 29, 2023 15:37:23 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that Pop Group song is a bloody mess?
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Mar 29, 2023 16:28:55 GMT
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Post by DayoRemix on Mar 29, 2023 16:28:55 GMT
Pop Group takes it..Experimental, dark, brooding. What's not to love? A fiery mystic screaming into the void to a dub beat, while the world ends..Their first album 'Y' is a Post Punk Landmark, as are the two non-album singles, this one and "We are all prostitutes"..Their second album, 'For how much longer do we tolerate mass murder?', ups the politics and throws in some free jazz and atonal experiments..just as vital..
The other track I assume is Level 42 (It doesn't load for me), but nothing they did would beat Pop Group..
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Mar 29, 2023 16:29:22 GMT
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Post by *LORD 'X'* on Mar 29, 2023 16:29:22 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that Pop Group song is a bloody mess? No.
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Mar 29, 2023 16:34:51 GMT
Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Mar 29, 2023 16:34:51 GMT
Which Level42 tune is it (not that it matters too much)? It's not showing here.
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Mar 29, 2023 16:55:45 GMT
Post by toomanyhatz on Mar 29, 2023 16:55:45 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that Pop Group song is a bloody mess? No. A rather glorious mess, say I. Messes are so much more interesting than tidy Level 42 shite.
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Mar 29, 2023 16:58:55 GMT
Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 29, 2023 16:58:55 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that Pop Group song is a bloody mess? I knew you'd say something like that. I think you've always struggled a bit with the rougher end of post-punk because you came of age in the 90s when records sounded more polished. But yeah, it is a mess..but that also gives it a certain kinetic energy. The other thing is it's all held together by a really tight groove. Underwood & Smith were a seriously good rhythm section, which was all the more remarkable given their tender ages.
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Mar 29, 2023 17:00:00 GMT
Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 29, 2023 17:00:00 GMT
The Level 42 is Lessons in Love.
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Mar 29, 2023 18:12:33 GMT
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Post by riggers on Mar 29, 2023 18:12:33 GMT
Pop Group obvs. Not much to add to what I wrote about it as my 1979 canon pick.
I believe Mark King is a lovely bloke and is undoubtedly a talented musician, but I can't even like Level 42 in an ironic way. Just competent but bland 80s fodder
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Mar 30, 2023 9:39:53 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Mar 30, 2023 9:39:53 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that Pop Group song is a bloody mess? I knew you'd say something like that. I think you've always struggled a bit with the rougher end of post-punk because you came of age in the 90s when records sounded more polished. But yeah, it is a mess..but that also gives it a certain kinetic energy. The other thing is it's all held together by a really tight groove. Underwood & Smith were a seriously good rhythm section, which was all the more remarkable given their tender ages. There's not much there though is there? That little climactic guitar part is the only thing I'd call much of a hook. You have a rubbery rhythm thing going on but it's not enough to make the record. It's the kind of thing that seems to get by on atmosphere as much as anything else.
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Mar 30, 2023 11:56:00 GMT
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 30, 2023 11:56:00 GMT
I knew you'd say something like that. I think you've always struggled a bit with the rougher end of post-punk because you came of age in the 90s when records sounded more polished. But yeah, it is a mess..but that also gives it a certain kinetic energy. The other thing is it's all held together by a really tight groove. Underwood & Smith were a seriously good rhythm section, which was all the more remarkable given their tender ages. There's not much there though is there? That little climactic guitar part is the only thing I'd call much of a hook. You have a rubbery rhythm thing going on but it's not enough to make the record. It's the kind of thing that seems to get by on atmosphere as much as anything else. I hear what you're saying, but the rubbery groove and its incantatory power with Stewart's haunted vocal were what made it so unique. It was a band putting together a set of sounds in a way people hadn't heard before.
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