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Post by tory on Sept 22, 2024 11:38:41 GMT
My son is now in a phase of more active musical listening. He has a bluetooth speaker and a Spotify playlist from my phone that he listens to almost daily, which is a significant advance on just a year ago, when his desire to listen to music was much less frequent. The playlist is a hotchpotch : one of his most significant early moments in listening to music was to delight in "Rikki don't lose that number", which cemented the Dan as the premier force in his musical imagination. That has now been reinforced by "Aja", "Deacon Blues", "Haitian Divorce" and a few others. Alongside the Dan are, obviously, The Beatles, of which "I am the Walrus" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" seem to be central. This is not an albums playlist; it is a serendipitous accumulation of music, some of which was chosen craftily by me (the odd "essential" track thrown in for good measure, but now has a number of video game songs that he enjoys, the Zelda series playing a major role. There's Hendrix, Kraftwerk and Dylan in there, and after a listen of Gene Clark's "No Other" in the car the other week, at least three from that album. I am not yet ready to give him free reign to explore his own music yet (there are security concerns over Spotify - www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-64262918), but he will often say "can I have something that sounds similar to x". There is virtually nothing that is contemporary; his mother is much more into "modern pop" and yet he has told me he doesn't like it at all. It's an interesting phase - and one I think that will only become more intense as he gets older.
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Post by "BING E BONG" on Sept 22, 2024 11:40:46 GMT
I am not yet ready to give him free reign to explore his own music yet
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Post by "BING E BONG" on Sept 22, 2024 11:41:21 GMT
How old is he, Toby?
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Post by tory on Sept 22, 2024 11:45:43 GMT
He's 11. When I mean that, I'm referring to the exploration of the internet on screens without any supervision. Kids don't buy music anymore!
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Post by "BING E BONG" on Sept 22, 2024 12:04:21 GMT
I know, I know. Just jesting
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Post by fange on Sept 23, 2024 0:45:22 GMT
Kids don't buy music anymore! My eldest daughter is 21, so not sure if i can really count her as a "kid" any more but she has been buying CDs and vinyl pretty regularly for the last 5-6 years. Not as much as i tend to (though I have slowed down over the past few years), but she loves the physical product too, as well as the undeniable easy and reach of platforms like spotify or YT. Her core listening tastes revolve around 80s and 90s UK and US indie/alternative rock/Britpop, but she still goes back to the 70s or 60s if there is something that grabs her interest there (Bowie, Iggy, Television, NY Dolls, VU, Beatles). She found a reissued copy of Nancy & Lee for a very nice price last year, and I was both proud as punch and green with envy. She also loves Lana Del Ray, Fiona Apple and some of the more "alternative" singer-songwriters over the last 20 years.
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Post by DarknessFish on Sept 23, 2024 12:41:03 GMT
My son is 16, and seems to be quite interested in music, if not exactly as obsessed as I was at his age (or indeed, now). He's very pop/indie focused, nothing around the extremes really, nothing massively adventurous. I remember his Spotify end of year charts had Roy Orbison at number one, and Arctic Monkeys at number 2, so he's not stuck in any one particular era, but there's a disconcerting lack of offensiveness or attempts to shock (though having said that, I've heard him listening to UK drill occasionally).
Key artists for him seem to be Bloc Party, Madness, The Smiths, Elvis, Queen, Arctic Monkeys, The Pixies, Blur. So some offensive to me, but not really offensive in a anti-parental way.
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Post by fange on Sept 23, 2024 13:13:36 GMT
This is one of my Zo's "classic" rock playlists she made for herself on spotify. How would you rate it?
1. David Bowie - Beauty and the Beast 2. Lou Reed - Coney Island Baby 3. Lana Del Ray - Did You Know That There's a Tunnel Under Ocean Blvd 4. The Jam - English Rose 5. Patti Smith - Frederick 6. The Stooges - Gimme Danger 7. The Kinks - I Go To Sleep 8. Primal Scream - I'm Losing More Than I'll Ever Have 9. John Lennon - I'm Losing You 10. Wilco - I'm the Man Who Loves You 11. John Lennon - Jealous Guy 12. Belle and Sebastian - Legal Man 13. Phoebe Bridgers - Moon Song 14. Bob Dylan - One Too Many Mornings 15. Neil Young - Only Love Can Break Your Heart 16. Richard Hawley - The Ocean 17. Lou Reed - Satellite of Love 18. Suede - So Young 19. Suicide - Surrender ('88 version) 20. PIL - This Is Not a Love Song 21. Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me 22. The The - The Uncertain Smile 23. The Stranglers - Walk on By 24. Simon & Garfunkel - Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M. 25. PJ Harvey - We Float
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Post by loveless on Sept 23, 2024 13:35:21 GMT
I feel like it's definitely got "a vibe" as we say - mostly moody, mellow, etc.
Some stone cold classics, and a few surprises.
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Post by fange on Sept 23, 2024 13:44:41 GMT
Yeah, very true. I love the flow of a lot of it, creates a really good mood. Some ofnmy absolute personal faves too, good girl.
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Post by DarknessFish on Sept 23, 2024 13:58:43 GMT
This is one of my Zo's "classic" rock playlists she made for herself on spotify. How would you rate it? 1. David Bowie - Beauty and the Beast 2. Lou Reed - Coney Island Baby 3. Lana Del Ray - Did You Know That There's a Tunnel Under Ocean Blvd 4. The Jam - English Rose 5. Patti Smith - Frederick 6. The Stooges - Gimme Danger 7. The Kinks - I Go To Sleep 8. Primal Scream - I'm Losing More Than I'll Ever Have 9. John Lennon - I'm Losing You 10. Wilco - I'm the Man Who Loves You 11. John Lennon - Jealous Guy 12. Belle and Sebastian - Legal Man 13. Phoebe Bridgers - Moon Song 14. Bob Dylan - One Too Many Mornings 15. Neil Young - Only Love Can Break Your Heart 16. Richard Hawley - The Ocean 17. Lou Reed - Satellite of Love 18. Suede - So Young 19. Suicide - Surrender ('88 version) 20. PIL - This Is Not a Love Song 21. Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me 22. The The - The Uncertain Smile 23. The Stranglers - Walk on By 24. Simon & Garfunkel - Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M. 25. PJ Harvey - We Float Any chance she could step in for you in the preludin cup, so we don't have to sit through 18 hours of interminable bebop?
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Post by fearlessfreap on Sept 23, 2024 13:59:10 GMT
I already wrote about my daughter's tragic taking to nu-country. It's hard for me to even type this. I wonder if there is a support group for parents like me.
My son likes a lot of music - more than me, though I admit to having narrow tastes. He primarily likes newer hip hop and EDM, but his favorite albums are Neutral Milk Hotel's In An Aeroplane Over The Sea which I can't figure out since I never played it for him, Songs In The Key Of Life and Illmatic which I have. He likes what he's heard from the Beatles but has little use for classic rock, thank ford. Neither kids are Swifties so I never had to take out a second mortgage to send them to a show.
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Post by DayoRemix on Sept 23, 2024 14:16:50 GMT
This is one of my Zo's "classic" rock playlists she made for herself on spotify. How would you rate it? 1. David Bowie - Beauty and the Beast 2. Lou Reed - Coney Island Baby 3. Lana Del Ray - Did You Know That There's a Tunnel Under Ocean Blvd 4. The Jam - English Rose 5. Patti Smith - Frederick 6. The Stooges - Gimme Danger 7. The Kinks - I Go To Sleep 8. Primal Scream - I'm Losing More Than I'll Ever Have 9. John Lennon - I'm Losing You 10. Wilco - I'm the Man Who Loves You 11. John Lennon - Jealous Guy 12. Belle and Sebastian - Legal Man 13. Phoebe Bridgers - Moon Song 14. Bob Dylan - One Too Many Mornings 15. Neil Young - Only Love Can Break Your Heart 16. Richard Hawley - The Ocean 17. Lou Reed - Satellite of Love 18. Suede - So Young 19. Suicide - Surrender ('88 version) 20. PIL - This Is Not a Love Song 21. Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me 22. The The - The Uncertain Smile 23. The Stranglers - Walk on By 24. Simon & Garfunkel - Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M. 25. PJ Harvey - We Float Well, at least it's not country..
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Post by loveless on Sept 23, 2024 14:44:41 GMT
My oldest is 19. He plays drums, and far too much sort of "video game rocking" for my tastes (Guitar Hero, Rock Band, etc.), though...knowing that these games have brought tons of groups, artists, and songs into his world, I think I have to consider the net positives.
He started with the Beatles as a little boy (I mean, kind of "classic gateway shit" - and he's every bit as much a fan now as he ever was, this expanding to include his own sort of favorites from the solo careers), he definitely went through a big Michael Jackson phase when he was younger (still likes a lot of those songs a lot), but has moved on to any number of obsessions - mostly guitar-based dinosaur rock (things like Metallica, Van Halen, Green Day, Yes), but also a lot of randomness (I'll often find him drumming along to all of this 60s and 70s AM Gold, things like "What a Fool Believes", "Everybody's Talkin'", "Green Tambourine", "Jackie Blue", "Alone Again Naturally", "A Little More Love", "Tragedy", various Monkees songs, etc.). Lately, he's been pushing a handful of songs by Billie Eilish (and I suppose it is my parental duty to listen to a couple of these). He's definitely more of a song guy than an album guy - his autism and ADHD may be factors here, as may be some generational issues, but...he'll discover music by a lot of these "album artists" (I mean, I would say the Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, the Doors all qualify as 'album rock' acts), but will sort of steadfastly cling to the handful of songs he really likes with no sense of needing to ever dig into the parent album. He went through a phase maybe 3 or 4 years back of going on walks (always at 4pm) and listening to the West Side Story soundtrack and dancing the numbers while he was out.
Both boys went through HUGE Beach Boys/Brian Wilson phases when they were quite young - each of them has seen Brian Wilson quite a few times (again, at very young ages), and similarly Paul McCartney, the Zombies, Monkees, KISS, the Darkness, and so on (the oldest has seen Yes a few times, they both went to see a Michael Jackson tribute together nearly 5 years ago - their first show sans parental supervision).
My youngest (15) plays cello in the school orchestra, and went through an extremely brief period about 3 years ago of learning bass and guitar (total natural) for a month and then putting them down forevermore. I was briefly disappointed (internally, of course) at the seeming abandonment of great promise (for one thing, his perfect pitch is better than my own, and...I was always the guy in bands over a lifetime who was able to automatically identify notes and chords), but...I think the only piece of parental semi-wisdom I've ever successfully absorbed is "Don't meddle with their talents and interests!". Occasionally, he'll hear a song in a movie or televison show and ask me how it's played (I remember both "Baby Blue" and "A Horse With No Name" from Breaking Bad - it's funny, I'll learn a lot of things for myself in some "This is probably how they played it" way, but when one of the kids is interested, suddenly, I'm looking up the tunings and correct chord voicings and all of these things...HE was the one that informed me that "Baby Blue" was pitched slightly sharp - either poor tuning/intonation on the session, or by Rundgren goosing the master ever so slightly when printing the mix...to me it would have always read as a B, but...that wasn't good enough for little James). In terms of his current listening habits, the last thing I remember him being REALLY into was Daft Punk (and before that - Eminem, whom he now finds decidedly "cringe"), but he also plays a lot of this video game music (heavily electronic) when he gets control of the car stereo. My wife took him to see Gorillaz about a year ago (an event to which he agreed when "going to see gorillas" was not necessarily a musical event).
A couple of years ago, I started enlisting them as "the two man hand percussion section" on all of these Beatles gigs I do (seemingly, at least 2/3 of these tracks have all manner of shakers, bongos, cowbells, tambourines, handclaps, claves, etc. - and it adds a layer of "realism" to have these elements represented in a gig setting). The oldest will usually get behind the kit for a song or two under the right circumstances. The youngest has been (sensibly) rebelling against the Beatles in all other areas for a good 5 or more years (honestly, the older kid burned me out on them pretty thoroughly once he had the means with which to do so), but he takes his percussion duties very seriously (I think from the moment they realized this was a paying gig, they were all in on it forevermore), and has every expectation of reliably attending the Beatles convention every summer along with the rest of the family (he says this is about performing, but I reckon it's more to do with staying in a hotel for the weekend).
I might have lost them for good with my recent jazz obsession (I think they both find it pleasant enough, but neither is remotely looking for a way in).
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