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Post by oh oooh on Apr 4, 2023 9:28:56 GMT
The Smiths were fucking great. It's a shame he feels he has to big them up. And it's a shame that he's sometimes misrepresented/caricatured.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 4, 2023 17:27:01 GMT
It comes across mostly as sexual obsession. They also strongly allude to an imaginary time when I was somehow their actual flesh-and-blood friend, and this claim allows them full rights to enlightened bitterness
lol
It's interesting to observe some of the Smiths fans who express such contempt towards him now. It's almost like they are repudiating themselves for ever identifying with the guy.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 4, 2023 17:30:56 GMT
Masked Man on Facebook who can't even type his name and instead types "M********" lol
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 21, 2023 18:15:50 GMT
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Post by fange on Oct 22, 2023 5:33:52 GMT
Ach, i can't help but like the ole cunt when he plays his charming man side.
Don't know if i ever mentioned it on here but I saw him live in Tokyo in 2002 when i was living and working there, and he was just terrific. Such a charismatic performer. No matter what daft shit comes outta his mouth at times, there will always be a part of me that remembers how much joy his art has brought me.
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Post by oh oooh on Jan 13, 2024 8:50:50 GMT
There is also an obvious media shift to delete me from being the central essence of The Smiths, but this cannot work because I invented the group name, the song-titles, the album titles, the artwork, the vocal melodies, and all of the lyrical sentiments came from my heart … and so it's a bit like saying Mick Jagger had nothing to do with the Stones. Several news sites now claim that the initial meeting at Rough Trade Records was with "Johnny Marr and Andy Rourke," even though Andy wasn't even a committed band member at that point. The meeting, of course, was Morrissey and Marr. Even Geoff Travis has now suddenly decided that he "can't remember who was with Johnny," even though Geoff looked me squarely in the eye on that very day and said "we'd like to release Hand In Glove immediately," and he then more importantly said to me that his name was Geoff with a G, not Jeff with a J. The hounds are snapping!
Hand in glove, I stake my claim! I'll fight to the last breath!
-Morrissey, in conversation, 2023.
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Post by DarknessFish on Jan 13, 2024 10:29:15 GMT
I'm not researching any of that, but he's just making shit up to paint himself as a victim because we can't handle the black pop conspiracy truth.
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Post by tory on Jan 13, 2024 12:55:57 GMT
Let's be honest - Morrissey has had a decent musical career post Smiths and by comparison, Marr hasn't. Marr is an extremely talented musician, but like John Squire, there's not the same fire afterwards.
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Post by oh oooh on Jan 13, 2024 13:04:10 GMT
Let's be honest - Morrissey has had a decent musical career post Smiths and by comparison, Marr hasn't. Marr is an extremely talented musician, but like John Squire, there's not the same fire afterwards. Absolutely true - but Marr is (rightly, in my view) seen as a really decent sort, whereas Morrissey isn't. That has a lot to do with all this, I think.
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Post by tory on Jan 13, 2024 13:05:42 GMT
"decent sort"
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Post by oh oooh on Jan 13, 2024 13:10:41 GMT
You know what I mean. Everyone wants to work with him. He's very well regarded by fans and musicians. There's a modesty there too. It rankles with the bitter old Mozz.
There's a new Marr best-of out, actually - I just saw it in HMV. I honestly didn't recognise a single title.
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Post by adamcoan on Jan 13, 2024 13:47:14 GMT
Honestly, Morrissey is everything you want a pop star to be. Outrageous, opinionated,gets folks back up. Many of the writers that have had a go, end up looking worse than him. He will get caught one day, naked as the day he was born, eating bacon from the inner thigh of a lady butcher, while being thrashed by a pork chop ,covered head to toe in beef dripping.
I prefer him to the " I gave my clothes to a charity shop!" Tossers and the " we are proud to announce the lowest touring carbon footprint, evah!!" Yay.
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Post by adamcoan on Jan 13, 2024 13:48:48 GMT
You know what I mean. Everyone wants to work with him. He's very well regarded by fans and musicians. There's a modesty there too. It rankles with the bitter old Mozz. There's a new Marr best-of out, actually - I just saw it in HMV. I honestly didn't recognise a single title. Most of it is shouty, really badly produced drivel.
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Post by oh oooh on Jan 13, 2024 13:52:56 GMT
and this, after the supportive Weddoes post? you will be IMPLUMEDe if this carries on, J
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Post by adamcoan on Jan 13, 2024 13:57:32 GMT
I don't care! So there.
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