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Post by oh oooh on Oct 15, 2021 23:01:42 GMT
There's a fair bit of footage, I think not much that's COMPLETELY new but definitely a few surprises.
Anyway don't listen to me - read the reviews.
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Post by jeffk on Oct 16, 2021 3:47:00 GMT
It was excellent. Believe the hype. Even though the film was made up of plenty of talking heads, it breathed new life into that tired format. There's very little that hasn't been shown before but Haynes has skillfully crafted all the clips and interviews into something special.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Oct 16, 2021 7:14:31 GMT
Loved it, though I do long for a part II - it was pretty much all origin story, and hits fast forward the second Cale leaves.
Not coincidentally, Cale gets a LOT of screen time.
It's an oral history, really, with some very great visuals. As far as actual unseen Velvets live footage, well...that's not the point of it, but there is a little, anyway.
What it does very, very well is capture how much they stood out at the time. And how liberating that was for some people.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 16, 2021 7:27:53 GMT
Yeah, I take your point about the 'fast forward'. It was probably to be expected considering everything - although I thought we'd see something of Doug Yule (he gets a fair bit of screen time in the other VU doc I've seen - Vanishing Point)
I'll say it again - Cale looks amazing for an eighty-year-old. He's as sharp as a tack. He was good for the pithy summaries (especially on things like how he learned to improvise, and what sort of person Lou was), and Jonathan was good for the enthusiasm 🙂
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 16, 2021 7:32:11 GMT
The Times of Israel review headline: Velvet Underground documentary omits band’s Jewish roots, but is still very cool
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 16, 2021 13:00:42 GMT
oh - and there were contributions from some women who were very close to members of the band. I don't think I've ever heard anything from them at any other point - apart from a printed article I believe in a US newspaper maybe 8 years ago. Valuable testimony!
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Post by jeffk on Oct 16, 2021 18:45:45 GMT
I wonder how much different the film would have been if Lou was still alive and had input I'm sure we would have seen his buddy Bono pop up.
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Post by jeffk on Oct 16, 2021 18:47:26 GMT
oh - and there were contributions from some women who were very close to members of the band. I don't think I've ever heard anything from them at any other point - apart from a printed article I believe in a US newspaper maybe 8 years ago. Valuable testimony! I think that one lady, Sheryl?, his friend from Syracuse who was the subject matter of Pale Blue Eyes and She's My Best Friend.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 16, 2021 18:56:43 GMT
Shelley, I think.
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Post by jeffk on Oct 16, 2021 19:03:06 GMT
Even though it was Cale's movie I also love Moe Tucker's contributions. She's no nonsense and still has contempt for the hippies and Frank Zappa.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 16, 2021 19:04:18 GMT
Even though it was Cale's movie I also love Moe Tucker's contributions. She's no nonsense and still has contempt for the hippies and Frank Zappa. Yeah, she showed her teeth a bit, didn't she? 🙂
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 19:38:01 GMT
I guess it's just me . It was the case for years that the mystery , odd pictures and anecdotes was part of the legend. Now , like everything else, we are not happy unless there is a sequel, prequel and character offshoots before we are satisfied. Something truly special given the coffee table book ,boxed set commercialisation that right now is being made to satisfy the schedules of the pay by monthlies. I am sure it is a wonderful documentary but like everything else nowadays it ain't done until it's done to death.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 16, 2021 19:46:10 GMT
But they haven't really had the same kind of treatment that the Beach Boys, Bowie, the Stones et al have had. I'm always saying this I know but for a premier-league cult rock band they've been neglected over the years. This really is the least we should expect as fans. And it's definitive.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 16, 2021 19:49:21 GMT
The Doors (who in many ways are comparable) are all over social media, remasters or 50th anniversary editions every six months, Krieger's got a book out and he's touring, 'is Jim really dead?' etc etc etc
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 19:53:57 GMT
But they haven't really had the same kind of treatment that the Beach Boys, Bowie, the Stones et al have had. I'm always saying this I know but for a premier-league cult rock band they've been neglected over the years. This really is the least we should expect as fans. And it's definitive. And in truth therein was the appeal and that personal connection. Neglected is a funny word to use . You mean they were not exploited enough? We just need to know everything these days don't we.
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