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Post by tory on Feb 3, 2021 9:11:13 GMT
If you read the 1945 Labour party manifesto, it is explicitly nationalist. There is very little, if any, mention of socialism in the entire document.
Of course, if you believe nationalism to be inherently a bad thing, then I guess you'll find it problematic. The last few days have seen how being part of a multi-nation bloc that purports to act in everyone's interests can have issues.
It should be plainly obvious to everyone in Britain that a Labour election win can only come with an SNP coalition. Labour will never gain any sort of large majority unless they regain Scotland, which was their key to election victory in the past.
That's the next hurdle.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 3, 2021 9:12:53 GMT
My services are available! All Kier needs to do is set up a Zoom meeting and I'll spell it all out. Just chuck us a ton and promise me you'll throw Diane Abbott into the ocean. "Oi! Jughead! Ditch the shit, move to the right culturally and economically and actually put forward a positive vision of Britain that welcomes diversity but also reaffirms THIS IS FUCKING GREAT BRITAIN YOU NONCES and we ain't gonna be pushed arrrrooound anymore!"
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Post by tory on Feb 3, 2021 11:10:55 GMT
Starmer's first issue is that he campaigned vociferously for Remain really up until the end.
Are voters going to trust him on Brexit matters?
Given state intervention is much more likely being out of the EU, Labour should be throwing their weight behind it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 11:15:23 GMT
Are voters going to trust him on Brexit matters? I think the nation relies on Facebook and old Etonians when it comes to who they trust on Brexit.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 3, 2021 11:53:10 GMT
The SNP are in meltdown but Labour are in no position to take over. Nobody is really sadly.
And to think of the amount of ignorant people down south who drool over Sturgeon and romanticise Scotland under the SNP (partly due to us voting remain).
What a world.
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Post by tory on Feb 3, 2021 12:15:22 GMT
I've seen people refer to her as "Saint Nicola" in London.
It's ridiculous. Personally I think she's an effective politician who has no policies. She's a bit like Blair - very professional and efficacious, but pull off the Krankie costume and there's a gaping abyss inside.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 3, 2021 12:27:52 GMT
Wave the flags everybody. Wave the flags!
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 3, 2021 12:40:00 GMT
I've seen people refer to her as "Saint Nicola" in London. It's ridiculous. Personally I think she's an effective politician who has no policies. She's a bit like Blair - very professional and efficacious, but pull off the Krankie costume and there's a gaping abyss inside. But she has a vagina. And that's impressive. I mean, I don't know if it's an impressive vagina but she iz a woman and she is caring and passionate and this is the future of politics and Scotland is a beacon of hope within the UK. This is what yer London Labour types appear to believe. These guys. The highest drugs death tally in Europe...declining education standards, the fucking state of the NHS, faulty hospitals that can't even open, declining life expectancy, a shit economy, an increasing public spending deficit (now up to 15bn? Work that one out nationalists) etc. Her flagship policies like the council tax freeze, tuition etc are just middle class freebies framed as "social justice" style bullshit. A snakeoil salesman cunt, a liar, a con artist, a dogma clown, a venal little cretin who is now desperately trying to hang onto power as it unravels (witness the latest sacking of Joanna Cherry). That party has done significant damage to this country and the UK as well in their monomaniacal pursuit of SCOTTISH UTOPIA AND FREEDOM. You think I'm pissed off at and lefties? Pull up a pew my friends. I've just been triggered.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 3, 2021 13:38:15 GMT
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Post by tory on Feb 3, 2021 14:26:50 GMT
Oh that's excellent!
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Feb 3, 2021 14:43:16 GMT
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 3, 2021 19:10:44 GMT
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Post by tory on Feb 3, 2021 20:11:41 GMT
From the Spectator today
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 20:16:03 GMT
Are all the candidates mentioned above wealthy? Like millionaire wealthy?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 20:18:15 GMT
I wouldn't disagree with the above (Toby's quote) -it's not across all the left, but a particularly middle class kind of leftie. Despite always being on the left myself, I've never been able to relate to that. But nationalism can be a dangerous thing as we all now, so a certain amount of caution is advisable.
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