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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 18:03:44 GMT
The supermarkets have been mostly fine for me. Some empty shelves but that's it. I haven't been the last few days mind but still... That's because the Scottish have a more collectivist, socialist mentality! I can assure you in the south-east the shelves have been empty, although it's beginning to improve now the supermarkets have started to restrict the flow of numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 18:05:09 GMT
Oh come on Toby you're deluding yourself if you don't think there was and is widespread stockpiling. Let's not pretend that this is a narrative made up by left wingers for their own purposes. Just speak to some supermarket workers for goodness sake to hear what's been happening! I think you miss his point, G - he's saying that "empty shelves" isn't as dramatic as it looks. I got his point and it was bollocks!
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Mar 24, 2020 18:10:00 GMT
The supermarkets have been mostly fine for me. Some empty shelves but that's it. I haven't been the last few days mind but still... That's because the Scottish have a more collectivist, socialist mentality! I can assure you in the south-east the shelves have been empty, although it's beginning to improve now the supermarkets have started to restrict the flow of numbers. Scots being tight cunts more like
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Mar 24, 2020 18:12:03 GMT
So G, Toby - are the supermarkets doing a kind of 'two out, two in' thing at the door where you are?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 18:13:57 GMT
The thing is, we unequivocally accept the testimony of experts. And yet, experts are very often totally wrong. Peter Hitchens has pointed out that this is quite similar to Foot & Mouth, where farmers were ruined by having to destroy livestock. The thing is, people who go against scientific and expert analysis are often thought to be heretical and shouted down in a herd mentality. I'm sorry but when I hear someone say "I see very little evidence of a pandemic", I think it's pretty obvious that he has an agenda.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 18:16:34 GMT
So G, Toby - are the supermarkets doing a kind of 'two out, two in' thing at the door where you are? They were in Waitrose today and the shelves were surprisingly well stocked...I even managed to buy bog roll! The only problem is I can't afford to shop in Waitrose!
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Mar 24, 2020 18:16:47 GMT
He talks through his arse sometimes. Just like his bro
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Post by Playground LEVINE on Mar 24, 2020 18:20:10 GMT
I just got an email from Heriot-Watt saying they're moving all their summer teaching online. I replied, asking if I could work entirely from home and checking that there'd be no need to come in to the uni at all, and she said yes.
So it's bye bye Edinburgh - I'll give the agency my 28 days notice in a week or so and get the fuck out of here - IF they accept my offer on the Whitehaven flat. There's absolutely no point in staying here now.
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Post by hippopotamus on Mar 24, 2020 18:21:01 GMT
The thing is, people who go against scientific and expert analysis are often thought to be heretical and shouted down in a herd mentality. This is sort of what I was trying to address in my last post. By looking at the same problem and coming up with different conclusions is just part of the Scientific Method... it's not actually going Against anything. There is actually no way of of knowing for sure how something is going to pan out, or what would or will be the best measures. You go with as much data as you can and draw the best conclusions as a collective Scientific community. Editors of the Times, are not Scientists though, neither are most politicians or probably 99% of the content we are exposed to. Opinions of whether or not you "go with", trust, or believe what you hear is a completely different matter. But everything by anyone should be read with a healthy level of skepticism, but credit where people know more than you should also afford some respect.
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Post by tory on Mar 24, 2020 18:21:14 GMT
50,000 people died from Flu in 2014 in the UK.
Pandemic?
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Post by tory on Mar 24, 2020 18:23:03 GMT
The thing is, we unequivocally accept the testimony of experts. And yet, experts are very often totally wrong. Peter Hitchens has pointed out that this is quite similar to Foot & Mouth, where farmers were ruined by having to destroy livestock. The thing is, people who go against scientific and expert analysis are often thought to be heretical and shouted down in a herd mentality. I'm sorry but when I hear someone say "I see very little evidence of a pandemic", I think it's pretty obvious that he has an agenda. That agenda being? Hitchens is disliked by many, but in my opinion he's a breath of fresh air. He argues rationally and with evidence. I suspect that just because he's a social conservative, you have an inherent and bigoted bias against him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 18:29:11 GMT
I'm sorry but when I hear someone say "I see very little evidence of a pandemic", I think it's pretty obvious that he has an agenda. That agenda being? Hitchens is disliked by many, but in my opinion he's a breath of fresh air. He argues rationally and with evidence. I suspect that just because he's a social conservative, you have an inherent and bigoted bias against him. More like because he's a social conservative you will swallow any old tosh he comes up with. The top medical experts across the world are calling this a pandemic, but we should ignore them and believe the well known medical expert Peter Hitchens instead.....yeah right.
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Post by tory on Mar 24, 2020 19:14:57 GMT
I'm not suggesting that we ignore medical experts. Far from it.
I'm suggesting that experts are often wrong and perhaps we should have the right to question them.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Mar 24, 2020 19:26:08 GMT
We should but at moments like this people won't accept...."we need to consult more people..."
They want answers and action and the politicians oblige even if it may be unwise and shortsighted.
We just make up shit as we go along.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 20:09:22 GMT
We should but at moments like this people won't accept...."we need to consult more people..." They want answers and action and the politicians oblige even if it may be unwise and shortsighted. We just make up shit as we go along. Whereas we would do so much better if we just followed the advice of right wing conservative journalists.
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