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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Apr 29, 2020 16:12:37 GMT
Her interest and knowledge of problems facing indigenous people was surprising and impressive. Did you really think so? To me it seemed like she was fathoming it all out day by day. She kind of admitted as much. But I liked that about her. She wasn't strident, or unsmiling, or super-confident. She was just telling us what she thought was wrong, and she was a bit hesitant about it.
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Post by Sneelock on Apr 29, 2020 16:17:58 GMT
well, she's interested and empathetic which is more than most, you know?
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 29, 2020 16:19:41 GMT
The long long long New Yorker piece that heralded the album's creation and arrival inadvertently may have sealed her off from being taken seriously by anyone other herself and her cult. It's a long read and I have zero interest in her as a person but I didn't know she inspired this kind of devotion.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 29, 2020 16:22:27 GMT
I was quite shocked when I saw photos. She's only a year older than me but I thought she looked quite a bit older. Eat something love!
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Apr 29, 2020 16:26:36 GMT
Ah, she's beautiful.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 16:42:18 GMT
I strongly suspect this is a music critics album. It has distinct musical settings that communicate a singular mood of angst and unease. The lyrics are upfront in the arrangements and are direct and arresting. All of this makes it easy to say what the album is "about" and it's almost designed to make an impact on first listen. But that impact will lessen on every listen. For something to last, to make people want to return to it again and again it needs musical qualities. I doubt the album is anywhere strong enough in that department for that to happen.
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Post by Sneelock on Apr 29, 2020 16:49:15 GMT
for what it's worth - my wife took an immediate liking to "Shameka" and she usually does a real good job of ignoring whatever I'm listening to.
you might be right, though. remember how loved and adored Tori Amos was? maybe she still is. it makes sense that anything with an active cult get a certain amount of critical attention one way or the other.
but, maybe like Tom Waits the cult will be all it really takes to make a comfortable living.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 29, 2020 17:00:41 GMT
I'll say this too, she's a woman making a Statement and some critics love that too.
After listening to it, it feels like people are projecting a whole load onto something very average and that's not her fault of course. However, I agree with Hatz, I do feel like critics are desperately searching for these big artistic statements to talk about, partly to justify their own existence but we don't produce these things anymore so it's rather pointless.
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Post by harrispilton on Apr 29, 2020 17:07:13 GMT
It's a bit Sunday broadsheet
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Post by Sneelock on Apr 29, 2020 17:10:20 GMT
how much job security do rock critics have right now?
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Post by toomanyhatz on Apr 29, 2020 21:10:06 GMT
As one who's been one (albeit on a pretty small scale), I can assure you it's practically zero. My friend Chris Morris still has a lot of active contacts, so he's probably somewhat safe, though I'm sure his opportunities are drying up somewhat too, and he also writes about other things. Muskrat from BCB is, I believe, retired, unless he gets an offer to do liner notes or something. I'm pretty sure there's not a lot of those forthcoming. BTW, (for a change? ) I pretty much agree totally with G. Whether that's her intent or not (and it seems an earnest enough work that I give her the benefit of the doubt), it's almost certainly a case of it fitting perfectly into the hole they (meaning Rolling Stone, Mojo, Pitchfork, etc.) envisioned into being.
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Post by npht on May 1, 2020 1:35:11 GMT
As a long time fan of Fiona who has to be reminded every 5+ years how brilliant a musician/lyricist she can be. IMHO Fiona only puts out an album when see has something to say. FTBC is another stunning work by Fiona, although I'm not giving it a 10 like Pitchfork. It's powerful album opener of piano and madding lyrics and great ending chanting. Right into Smameika which I think is the pop song. Several songs are Fiona's struggle with various men which she has been singing about since Tidal. Under the Table, Newspaper, Heavy Balloons, On I Go are also favorites. Does it have some clunkers sure but those songs like ladies seem to at least have a meaning.
Yikes so Covid
"Up until now it was day, next day
Up until now in a rush to prove
But now I only move to move"
my walk montra now: I spread like strawberries!
I climb like peas and beans!
I've been sucking it in so long
That I'm busting at the seams
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