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Post by Sneelock on Aug 17, 2021 23:40:36 GMT
don't stand so close to me.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Aug 18, 2021 13:06:04 GMT
I yam wearing a mask because I yam so .I need to deal with this shit on a DAILY basis. people I don't know come up to me with motherfucking HATE in their eyes. many tell me that I think I'm better than them because I am wearing a fucking mask.
I saw an anti-vax freshman GOP congress guy use the word "" 4 times in 3 minutes. I'm told that me and my fellow mask wearers are just trying to make THEM look bad. I need to deal with people who not only THINK like that but feel totally comfortable TALKING like that and their numbers are growing.IMO all this "/virtue signalling" talk is making it worse. furthermore, I think it is being employed as a political strategy. it's like trying to talk to somebody's Brother in Law about the Climate Crisis. I don't REALLY care about the climate or I wouldn't be drinking a beer. I'm just a big hypocrite. let's go fracking!! it's turning people into brick walls. The anti-mask/anti vax thing runs pretty deep. It’s the anti-government telling me what to do thing; it’s the conspiratorial Bill Gates will be monitoring me thing; it’s the anti-vaccine passport thing etc; it taps into some fundamental things you know. Are some GOP congressman making it worse by framing mask wearing as some virtue signalling thing? I think that’s a bit of a stretch tbh and people hassling you in the street is more the product of this underlying Freedom versus “Tyranny” shit imo but then that’s also entirely on those people. If you’re the kind of person who hassles strangers in the street for any reason that’s just the kind of twat you are.....own it. You live in California right? California is very weird at the moment, a lot of anger. What I would say is, the next time a stranger hassles you go FULL MENTAL. Seriously, just lose it, rip your mask off, start banging your head, frothing at the mouth, act like you have lost all sense of control and they will back off in seconds. Trust me! Within no time at all you’ll get a rep as the weird nutter and everybody will leave you alone! The thing is, “” is a synonym for leftism – for that’s what the whole social “justice”, post-modern/critical theory stuff is – so framing that way is a shorthand for Republicans to criticise the Democrats innit? Can it be a lazy shorthand? Yeah cos Rep politicians like their little soundbites in the same way left wing politicians use their soundbites and rhetoric for the own political strategy. Why wouldn’t the right use leftism as a stick to beat their opponents? Especially when the left beat those who disagree with them by slurring them and accusing them of the worst things under the sun all the time. That’s the thing with leftism, it backfires on the moderate left too and creates all kinds of unintended consequences even for guys like yourself. It’s a fundamentally destructive force but you can’t complain too hard when people use your own shit against you imo. It’s like criticising somebody for picking up a chair in a bar fight when you have been throwing bottles at him. Doesn’t work like that in politics I'm afraid. You mention the climate "crises". Well let’s imagine a scenario where person A believes there is a climate “crises” and wants to talk about it and you have person B, the brother in law who is less convinced that it is a “crises”. Two different POV. Maybe BIL isn’t that interested in talking with someone about a subject he won’t ever agree on and maybe he’d rather talk about the football draft or some meal he had the other night or his sons appalling music taste. Maybe BIL thinks person A is using this not as opportunity for a nice, friendly, "open" discussion but as an opportunity to “educate” him and maybe be a little bit patronising and superior. Hey, it happens! Especially around certain subjects. Maybe BIL aka The Brick Wall "resists" for reasons that are not always understood by Person A. But then maybe Person A is wrong. Maybe there isn’t a crises and maybe in time Person B will be shown as being correct? Who knows?! Maybe Person A and his brother in law should have stuck with talking about his sons love of Limp Bizkit and not climate change or politics. “that was a nice meal! Thanks so much!”….”Another beer?”….”Sure!”.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 13:58:42 GMT
The bad faith over use of of the constitution as protection for everything anyone wants to do, or not do, is getting pathetic. It just waters it down from it's true objective.
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Post by Sneelock on Aug 18, 2021 15:26:47 GMT
all in all it's just another brick in the wall.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Aug 18, 2021 16:15:16 GMT
I yam wearing a mask because I yam so .I need to deal with this shit on a DAILY basis. people I don't know come up to me with motherfucking HATE in their eyes. many tell me that I think I'm better than them because I am wearing a fucking mask.
I saw an anti-vax freshman GOP congress guy use the word "" 4 times in 3 minutes. I'm told that me and my fellow mask wearers are just trying to make THEM look bad. I need to deal with people who not only THINK like that but feel totally comfortable TALKING like that and their numbers are growing.IMO all this "/virtue signalling" talk is making it worse. furthermore, I think it is being employed as a political strategy. it's like trying to talk to somebody's Brother in Law about the Climate Crisis. I don't REALLY care about the climate or I wouldn't be drinking a beer. I'm just a big hypocrite. let's go fracking!! it's turning people into brick walls. The anti-mask/anti vax thing runs pretty deep. It’s the anti-government telling me what to do thing; it’s the conspiratorial Bill Gates will be monitoring me thing; it’s the anti-vaccine passport thing etc; it taps into some fundamental things you know. Are some GOP congressman making it worse by framing mask wearing as some virtue signalling thing? I think that’s a bit of a stretch tbh and people hassling you in the street is more the product of this underlying Freedom versus “Tyranny” shit imo but then that’s also entirely on those people. If you’re the kind of person who hassles strangers in the street for any reason that’s just the kind of twat you are.....own it. You live in California right? California is very weird at the moment, a lot of anger. What I would say is, the next time a stranger hassles you go FULL MENTAL. Seriously, just lose it, rip your mask off, start banging your head, frothing at the mouth, act like you have lost all sense of control and they will back off in seconds. Trust me! Within no time at all you’ll get a rep as the weird nutter and everybody will leave you alone! The thing is, “” is a synonym for leftism – for that’s what the whole social “justice”, post-modern/critical theory stuff is – so framing that way is a shorthand for Republicans to criticise the Democrats innit? Can it be a lazy shorthand? Yeah cos Rep politicians like their little soundbites in the same way left wing politicians use their soundbites and rhetoric for the own political strategy. Why wouldn’t the right use leftism as a stick to beat their opponents? Especially when the left beat those who disagree with them by slurring them and accusing them of the worst things under the sun all the time. That’s the thing with leftism, it backfires on the moderate left too and creates all kinds of unintended consequences even for guys like yourself. It’s a fundamentally destructive force but you can’t complain too hard when people use your own shit against you imo. It’s like criticising somebody for picking up a chair in a bar fight when you have been throwing bottles at him. Doesn’t work like that in politics I'm afraid. You mention the climate "crises". Well let’s imagine a scenario where person A believes there is a climate “crises” and wants to talk about it and you have person B, the brother in law who is less convinced that it is a “crises”. Two different POV. Maybe BIL isn’t that interested in talking with someone about a subject he won’t ever agree on and maybe he’d rather talk about the football draft or some meal he had the other night or his sons appalling music taste. Maybe BIL thinks person A is using this not as opportunity for a nice, friendly, "open" discussion but as an opportunity to “educate” him and maybe be a little bit patronising and superior. Hey, it happens! Especially around certain subjects. Maybe BIL aka The Brick Wall "resists" for reasons that are not always understood by Person A. But then maybe Person A is wrong. Maybe there isn’t a crises and maybe in time Person B will be shown as being correct? Who knows?! Maybe Person A and his brother in law should have stuck with talking about his sons love of Limp Bizkit and not climate change or politics. “that was a nice meal! Thanks so much!”….”Another beer?”….”Sure!”. I think more conservative folks use the "" term to point out that, "See, liberals think they're superior and better than us." The whole widespread conspiracy theory of microchips and deep state, pedophilia rings bothers me because I don't ever recall it being so pervasively believed by such a large segment of the population and at such a local level, even school boards. And I sure don't recall it reaching into federal lawmaking, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who actually believes that shit or guys like Josh Hawley, who are exploiting it to reach a constituency. Those kinda people used to be branded as nuts. I think sociologists and politicians really need to examine the distrust people now have towards politics/parties that makes them cross over to this bat shit crazy stuff rather than disliking certain differing policy viewpoints.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 16:18:03 GMT
The problem is the results of this sociologists and politicians examination will be viewed under which side does the sociologists and politicians lean towards. If anything you yanks should contract it out to another country. There can't be much argument then. There will still be, but not much.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Aug 18, 2021 18:38:44 GMT
The anti-mask/anti vax thing runs pretty deep. It’s the anti-government telling me what to do thing; it’s the conspiratorial Bill Gates will be monitoring me thing; it’s the anti-vaccine passport thing etc; it taps into some fundamental things you know. Are some GOP congressman making it worse by framing mask wearing as some virtue signalling thing? I think that’s a bit of a stretch tbh and people hassling you in the street is more the product of this underlying Freedom versus “Tyranny” shit imo but then that’s also entirely on those people. If you’re the kind of person who hassles strangers in the street for any reason that’s just the kind of twat you are.....own it. You live in California right? California is very weird at the moment, a lot of anger. What I would say is, the next time a stranger hassles you go FULL MENTAL. Seriously, just lose it, rip your mask off, start banging your head, frothing at the mouth, act like you have lost all sense of control and they will back off in seconds. Trust me! Within no time at all you’ll get a rep as the weird nutter and everybody will leave you alone! The thing is, “” is a synonym for leftism – for that’s what the whole social “justice”, post-modern/critical theory stuff is – so framing that way is a shorthand for Republicans to criticise the Democrats innit? Can it be a lazy shorthand? Yeah cos Rep politicians like their little soundbites in the same way left wing politicians use their soundbites and rhetoric for the own political strategy. Why wouldn’t the right use leftism as a stick to beat their opponents? Especially when the left beat those who disagree with them by slurring them and accusing them of the worst things under the sun all the time. That’s the thing with leftism, it backfires on the moderate left too and creates all kinds of unintended consequences even for guys like yourself. It’s a fundamentally destructive force but you can’t complain too hard when people use your own shit against you imo. It’s like criticising somebody for picking up a chair in a bar fight when you have been throwing bottles at him. Doesn’t work like that in politics I'm afraid. You mention the climate "crises". Well let’s imagine a scenario where person A believes there is a climate “crises” and wants to talk about it and you have person B, the brother in law who is less convinced that it is a “crises”. Two different POV. Maybe BIL isn’t that interested in talking with someone about a subject he won’t ever agree on and maybe he’d rather talk about the football draft or some meal he had the other night or his sons appalling music taste. Maybe BIL thinks person A is using this not as opportunity for a nice, friendly, "open" discussion but as an opportunity to “educate” him and maybe be a little bit patronising and superior. Hey, it happens! Especially around certain subjects. Maybe BIL aka The Brick Wall "resists" for reasons that are not always understood by Person A. But then maybe Person A is wrong. Maybe there isn’t a crises and maybe in time Person B will be shown as being correct? Who knows?! Maybe Person A and his brother in law should have stuck with talking about his sons love of Limp Bizkit and not climate change or politics. “that was a nice meal! Thanks so much!”….”Another beer?”….”Sure!”. I think more conservative folks use the "" term to point out that, "See, liberals think they're superior and better than us." The whole widespread conspiracy theory of microchips and deep state, pedophilia rings bothers me because I don't ever recall it being so pervasively believed by such a large segment of the population and at such a local level, even school boards. And I sure don't recall it reaching into federal lawmaking, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who actually believes that shit or guys like Josh Hawley, who are exploiting it to reach a constituency. Those kinda people used to be branded as nuts. I think sociologists and politicians really need to examine the distrust people now have towards politics/parties that makes them cross over to this bat shit crazy stuff rather than disliking certain differing policy viewpoints. Well, liberals do think they are superior and better than them lol. There is a lot of conspiracy nonsense today on both sides. On the right it's partly down to the move away from the "msm" towards alternative news sources that exposes people to this shit sadly. The deep state stuff might be rooted in the rights natural hostility towards big government. The Qanon stuff seems to be a combination of multiple conspiracies. We've always had this shit but it does seem to be worse but I think it's a sign of an increasingly sick, paranoid, weird society. I think some of the drivers are... - general feelings of inferiority where belief in a conspiracy gives the believer access to some kind of greater "truth" hidden to the common man and therefore assuages feelings of inferiority - loneliness, alienation, desire to belong to some kind of "group" makes people vulnerable to this stuff but also when they become part of a group there is a natural hierarchy that exists and status that can be achieved that makes them feel better about themselves therefore encouraging more outlandish belief in hidden "truths" - Fear....the excessive complexity of the modern world and the overwhelming flow of information leads to a desire to simplify the chaos into stories...grand narratives that "explain" events and the world - a loss of control and autonomy that people increasingly feel in their lives...conspiracies offer comforting explanations and therefore psychological safety on some level - a lack of meaning and purpose in peoples lives...conspiracies create something to fight against, a movement to be part of etc I've known people who were WELL into this shit. I mean to the level of believing in LIZARD ALIENS and all that wacky David Icke shit. Those people had genuine mental health issues though (like schizophrenia)
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