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Post by ~ / % ? * on Dec 26, 2020 15:47:06 GMT
Who is to say we are out of the woods yet? If the virus keeps morphing? The UK could be sealed off as Plague Island. We could return years later to have found "Lord of Flies" has taken place; a funny leader in skinny jeans named A-dam has taken over. Honeybus have become holy canon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 16:17:58 GMT
Well 'piggy' made it as PM already.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Dec 26, 2020 16:30:31 GMT
or Fozzie bear
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Post by tory on Dec 26, 2020 17:24:30 GMT
The Renaissance occurred after the Black Death in the 1300s too. But little to do with the Black Death itself. It was primarily fuelled by Byzantine scholars fleeing the Ottomans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 17:54:32 GMT
The Renaissance occurred after the Black Death in the 1300s too. But little to do with the Black Death itself. It was primarily fuelled by Byzantine scholars fleeing the Ottomans. He didn't say it did. I thought it was Italian humanists.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 19:07:51 GMT
or Fozzie bear Fozzie was my favourite muppet. His talent was before the world was ready for it.
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Post by tory on Dec 26, 2020 19:20:27 GMT
But little to do with the Black Death itself. It was primarily fuelled by Byzantine scholars fleeing the Ottomans. He didn't say it did. I thought it was Italian humanists. The Black Death played a role in a massive restructuring of the Italian economy, giving the Medici and other families more financial power. But the actual intellectual 'rebirth' came from Byzantine scholars bringing original copied texts after the Ottomans took Constantinople in 1453.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Dec 26, 2020 19:28:11 GMT
The Renaissance occurred after the Black Death in the 1300s too. But little to do with the Black Death itself. It was primarily fuelled by Byzantine scholars fleeing the Ottomans. While that is partly true, the waves of Black Death in England and Europe also led to peasants having more say about their work and a rising middle class because there was more land and more resources to be had - because there were less people and they had more say in their working situations. It also eventually led to the rise in the merchant class with Cosmo Medici and Jacob Fugger as the epitome of financiers.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Dec 26, 2020 19:31:38 GMT
It also eventually led to the rise in the merchant class with Cosmo Medici and Jacob Fugger as the epitome of financiers. not that fugger, it was anton.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Dec 26, 2020 19:33:02 GMT
It also eventually led to the rise in the merchant class with Cosmo Medici and Jacob Fugger as the epitome of financiers. not that fugger, it was anton. Nephew of Jacob.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Dec 26, 2020 19:34:26 GMT
Was he just a regular fugger or a mutherfugger?
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Post by bungo the mungo on Dec 26, 2020 19:34:39 GMT
shit. i got the wrong fugger.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Dec 26, 2020 19:39:02 GMT
Was he just a regular fugger or a mutherfugger? He had fugg you money, so mutherfugger.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 20:29:10 GMT
But little to do with the Black Death itself. It was primarily fuelled by Byzantine scholars fleeing the Ottomans. While that is partly true, the waves of Black Death in England and Europe also led to peasants having more say about their work and a rising middle class because there was more land and more resources to be had - because there were less people and they had more say in their working situations. It also eventually led to the rise in the merchant class with Cosmo Medici and Jacob Fugger as the epitome of financiers. Tory has a predictable blind spot concerning the working class Sloop.
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Post by tory on Dec 27, 2020 10:01:44 GMT
No working class in the 14th century!
Anyway, the Black Death killed roughly 40% of the population of England, but within 100 years the feudal system was over and people enjoyed a wage rise during the 15th that wouldn't get so high again until the 19th century. Easy come, easy go.
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