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Post by oh oooh on Sept 30, 2021 22:40:57 GMT
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 1, 2021 0:00:53 GMT
I like them a lot more than I dislike them.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 1, 2021 1:33:42 GMT
It wasn't Bowie's best look, but he and Bono made a nice couple.
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Post by souphound on Oct 1, 2021 2:13:28 GMT
Like a for most if not all politicians, you never got the feeling you were hearing the real people behind the masks talk.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2021 8:11:08 GMT
A sex predator (Epstein Islander) and a warmongering wench.
Along with Tony Blair and Bush and Boris the devil has a seat at his table for them.....
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Oct 1, 2021 8:22:21 GMT
They are a pair of mendacious, grasping, lying cunts. Bill is a serial sex offender and it's interesting to think what the reaction would have been to Bill in the metoo era.
Hilary is a serial liar too and they are shadier than Hunter Biden's son. She's one of those dreadful elitist snobs who seemed to think the presidency was owed to her on account of her being so awesome and Bill's husband. That "deplorables" comment gives you an insight into her mindset and I'm glad it backfired. I mean who liked her you know? She was unpopular in her own party let alone anywhere else and I can understand why.
Interestingly Christopher Hitchens hated them and it's worth watching some interviews and reading some of his criticisms about the pair. Some juicy stuff there and worth digging into (Bosnia for example).
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 1, 2021 8:25:36 GMT
They're GREAT at PR 🙂
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Oct 1, 2021 8:48:03 GMT
Bill was a smooth, savvy cunt wasn't he? Smart man, canny but something sociopathic about him. PR is made easier of course when your own side don't hold you to account. The hypocrisy around something like Bill is pretty nauseating.
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Post by fange on Oct 1, 2021 8:52:16 GMT
I don't like them at all; or at least, i don't like what i have heard about them as people over the last 30 years. I'm sure they have helped many people through their political careers, but to me they represent a terrible type of political animal that craves power and wealth for themselves before any other concerns.
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Post by DayoRemix on Oct 1, 2021 8:54:38 GMT
Wow
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 1, 2021 10:38:27 GMT
Google Hitchens and Clintons, like Dougie suggests.
I'm not suggesting you don't think for yourself or even subscribe to anything he says, but there are serious accusations, implications, that should at least give you pause.
Hitch is good on Mother Theresa and Kissinger too.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 1, 2021 12:01:33 GMT
lots of hate from the non-natives, ambivalence from the rest
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 1, 2021 12:12:28 GMT
yip
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Post by fearlessfreap on Oct 1, 2021 12:12:42 GMT
I can't stand either of them. I had to write in my brother on the 2016 election ballot.
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Post by blue on Oct 1, 2021 12:22:20 GMT
The problem with modern politics is it's easier to believe they're part of a global conspiracy, shape shifting reptilians, or whatever, than that they're honest politicians with the welfare of the people at heart.
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