|
Post by DarknessFish on Oct 14, 2021 12:42:59 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Oct 14, 2021 13:09:34 GMT
|
|
rayge
Administrator
Invisible
Posts: 8,825
|
Post by rayge on Oct 14, 2021 13:16:30 GMT
I came here to post that! Oh, well, no more Manchester for a bit. Reading now. Wonderfully atmospheric double sided single - True Love, on the B side is just as good - with doom drums, cathedral echoes and the most delightfully spider-lined guitar. The band did some wonderful conventional anarcho-punk tracks, but this is a stand-out, I think.
This is the best-sounding one on the interwebz I think: for the purposes of this thread, pease ignore True Love, which is tacked on the end.
|
|
|
Post by DarknessFish on Oct 14, 2021 13:46:15 GMT
|
|
|
Post by clive gash on Oct 14, 2021 13:48:52 GMT
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 14:25:08 GMT
Nah...this is the one. More anarchic, more exciting.
|
|
rayge
Administrator
Invisible
Posts: 8,825
|
Post by rayge on Oct 14, 2021 14:43:38 GMT
southern softies got rights, too.
More seriously, a song like Transmission about the healing powers of music suits a short 'a' because of its rhythmic attack, while a song like this one, which is essentially about decadence and the rise of fascism and the role music plays in distracting youth from, ahem, what really matters, an alternative 'opium of the people' to religion, supports a drawled, woozy, narcotic pronunciation of the word. And making three syllables of 'dancing' also fits the meter better.
|
|
|
Post by ernie on Oct 14, 2021 14:48:37 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Reactionary Rage on Oct 14, 2021 15:00:02 GMT
As good as the 80s were I'm looking at the songs picked here and thinking not a patch on the 60s really.
|
|
|
Post by clive gash on Oct 14, 2021 15:04:30 GMT
Nah...this is the one. More anarchic, more exciting. Kings… does edge it record-wise (and so would invalidate S&D in the greatest stakes) but Stand… was the moment where Antmania peaked, straight in at no. 1.
|
|
|
Post by oh oooh on Oct 14, 2021 15:58:31 GMT
As good as the 80s were I'm looking at the songs picked here and thinking not a patch on the 60s really. Hm
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 16:09:14 GMT
As good as the 80s were I'm looking at the songs picked here and thinking not a patch on the 60s really. Hm Yeah that seems too calcified to me, GB's classic rock biases coming through! I'd say the best stuff does stand up to the 60s. The main difference is there's not much consensus of what the best stuff is when it comes to the 80s, there's far more agreement on the 60s.
|
|
|
Post by oh oooh on Oct 14, 2021 16:21:45 GMT
Absolutely.
Whew! first time I've agreed with you in yonks Mr. G!
|
|
|
Post by Reactionary Rage on Oct 14, 2021 16:23:36 GMT
There's an emotional lightness in 80s pop music. There is something disposable and throwaway there. I don't think you often find something with the emotional depth of, say, Marvin Gaye's version of Grapevine that seems to be sourced from a deeper well. And that combination of art and commerce (recognised 60s peaks like Good Vibrations, Strawberry Fields seem like the apex of this in pop music) is something that feels missing to me. Less professional, more amateur approach? I dunno.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 16:47:28 GMT
There's an emotional lightness in 80s pop music. There is something disposable and throwaway there. I don't think you often find something with the emotional depth of, say, Marvin Gaye's version of Grapevine that seems to be sourced from a deeper well. And that combination of art and commerce (recognised 60s peaks like Good Vibrations, Strawberry Fields seem like the apex of this in pop music) is something that feels missing to me. Less professional, more amateur approach? I dunno. I halfway agree, but that first and second sentence is too dismissive, too categorical for me ( I realise you're making a rhetorical point, but still..). I reckon I get a similar emotional depth from Soft Cell's version of 'Tainted Love' as I do 'Grapevine'. Okay, it's not quite as good, but it's in the same ballpark. Likewise the sonic journey of "Slave to the Rhythm" offers the same heady excitement as Good Vibrations. Also, whilst you can no doubt state things that 60s music did better, the flip side is that there are qualities more easily found in 80s music than 60s music, for example the physical thrill of a hard, pure mechanised rhythm. That's just one example and my example, no doubt if you asked Rayge or Darkness Fish they would have their own examples. Where I would agree is the 60s produced those kind of towering figures who were reinventing the wheel almost on a yearly basis - yer Lennon's and Dylan's, Hendrix's and Wilson's etc. The 80s can't compete with that.
|
|