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Post by oh oooh on Nov 1, 2021 23:15:32 GMT
Greta Thunberg is the voice of the youth's conscience. She's really the only one with a profile. I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking that if she was a bit more charismatic, a bit taller, a bit more beautiful, then she might gain more of a following, maybe have more of an influence. Remember Emma Watson speaking to the UN about 8 years ago?
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 1, 2021 23:25:32 GMT
oh, you just love her because she's so teddibly, teddibly British. ;p
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Post by oh oooh on Nov 1, 2021 23:37:02 GMT
well HELL yeah!
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 1, 2021 23:41:40 GMT
Lord save us from actor activists.
Cmon John keep it real
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Post by oh oooh on Nov 1, 2021 23:43:49 GMT
The young people NEEDA LEEDA
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 0:43:42 GMT
I think she's pretty brave and has done a lot to force politicians to respond. I also find the comments on her looks, sex life ( or lack of) etc a bit distasteful if I'm honest. We wouldn't be saying this about a male.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 2, 2021 9:58:06 GMT
You know what I find distasteful, not to mention a little weird and disturbing? I find the whole relationship between Greta and Us distasteful. Franky I think this teenagers autistic obsession is actually being exploited for peoples benefit; exploited by the media (on both sides of the debate), exploited by the climate activists who use her as some kind of pin up girl/saint for their cause and also exploited to a degree by her parents too, whom I suspect may think it is a good thing for her to pursue this obsession (which has been fuelled by themselves) but who use her in a way to express their beliefs. The thing with this level of obsession is that it can do real harm to the individual themselves, especially when the person is vulnerable and driven by impulses they cannot necessarily control. Due to her condition Greta can’t really stop herself ya see. She is compelled to do this and it’s become that monomaniacal aspergers obsession and personally I think We bear some collective responsibility for encouraging and enabling it with scant regard for her own wellbeing simply because she fulfils a role for various groups and their own self-interests. Remember her “you stole my childhood” moment? That’s a young aspergers person, stressed, anxious and out their depth revealing themselves in a way that she should be protected from but she’s put there and encouraged by so many people for our own edification because she fulfils some need for Us. Not only is that distasteful imo, I think it’s weird and actually disturbing and it’s a sad indictment of where we are as a culture that some autistic teenager with limited understanding is the focus for what is a very complex issue. But I guess she is a totem for the climate change movement therefore the end justifies the means, right? Go get 'em Greta!
Personally, and maybe this is just me but I find that worse than John thinking out loud and expressing some basic truism (people respond more to a message if it is being said by someone attractive) and me making a crude joke that is meant to suggest that she would be better off expending all that adolescent energy into herself and her youth for her own wellbeing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 10:12:59 GMT
Far from being exploited, she very much seems to be her own agent in all of this. There may well be some element of sacrifice involved because she's playing for pretty high stakes. I felt the banterish comments were belittling her in a rather sexist manner and it seems others reading the thread felt the same. I'm not trying to censor you or John, but sometimes a little self reflection on our attitudes is no bad thing, for all of us.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 2, 2021 10:26:15 GMT
Far from being exploited, she very much seems to be her own agent in all of this. There may well be some element of sacrifice involved because she's playing for pretty high stakes. I felt the banterish comments were belittling her in a rather sexist manner and it seems others reading the thread felt the same. I'm not trying to censor you or John, but sometimes a little self reflection on our attitudes is no bad thing, for all of us. Fucking get over yourself. Honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 10:31:17 GMT
Far from being exploited, she very much seems to be her own agent in all of this. There may well be some element of sacrifice involved because she's playing for pretty high stakes. I felt the banterish comments were belittling her in a rather sexist manner and it seems others reading the thread felt the same. I'm not trying to censor you or John, but sometimes a little self reflection on our attitudes is no bad thing, for all of us. Fucking get over yourself. Honestly. Not a fan of self reflection then? I did prevaricate over whether to post my comment because I knew it was very likely to provoke this kind of reaction. But there you go..we're on a message forum and sometimes it is healthy for our views and attitudes to be challenged
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 2, 2021 10:51:29 GMT
You are not in the classroom now G and I am not one of your pupils.
Honestly, the finger wagging moralising of some folk around here is the worst aspect of this place.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 10:51:48 GMT
Would be nice to hear from others btw.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 10:55:29 GMT
You are not in the classroom now G and I am not one of your pupils. Honestly, the finger wagging moralising of some folk around here is the worst aspect of this place. I'm not trying to lecture you, just trying to explain why I felt the comments were a bit out of line. Why are you so antagonistic to having your views challenged? Do you expect silence or approval as the only choices that people can make when reading this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 11:01:23 GMT
Just for a little balance here. Greta was initially driven by a video she saw in school of floating plastic in the ocean. Previous to this she had been suffering depression and refusing to eat and talk. In other words she was shutting down. Her father on seeing her first major speech when asked if he was proud said that no because he was happy she was happy. In the family written lifestory it is clear that the more the family danced to Greta's fiddle the better her condition became in the sense that it made her happy. Her teacher at school, apparently the only person she would speak too has expressed concern should the light eventually shine on someone else. Still as Mrs Thunberg said "her condition doesn't rule out the fact that she's right and the rest of us have got it all wrong." I fear that she may crash and burn and I hope it isn't a public event if she does. Her parents are happy because an event has miraculously transformed their child. The climate activist are happy because they have a poster girl. To see the Paris agreement fudged and to see the billions promised and not delivered with India promising to help fifty years after it is too late do not make me happy. A little girl and her condition are raising awareness but at what cost to her in the end?
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Post by oh oooh on Nov 2, 2021 11:08:57 GMT
You are not in the classroom now G and I am not one of your pupils. Honestly, the finger wagging moralising of some folk around here is the worst aspect of this place. I'm not trying to lecture you, just trying to explain why I felt the comments were a bit out of line. Why are you so antagonistic to having your views challenged? Do you expect silence or approval as the only choices that people can make when reading this. Maybe you could put across your own views, G. Elaborate on what you feel, rather than advising people how to behave. I don't agree with everything Dougie said myself (actually it's the way he said it in this case) but why not address his points? That goes for the 'silent majority' who agreed with what G said too. I mean, a discussion is all we're after on a notice board, after all. Isn't it?
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