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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 2, 2021 17:37:25 GMT
I've tried to choose my words carefully and be polite and considered so we wouldn't get into this kind of argument, but it seems I've failed in that. I don't think you like being challenged on these things, so that gives us the choice of either staying silent when you make these comments or getting into a row. I also don't believe that her autism ( and she is clearly at the high functioning end of that spectrum) should exclude her from performing a high profile public role if this is what she wishes to do. She is clearly different and extraordinary in many ways, but then so were many activists, freedom fighters and campaigners in the past. “challenged”. The implication is that your judgement is the correct one that I should acknowledge and take on board when in reality it’s just different sensibilities and the clash between them but thanks for the feedback folks! Newsflash, not everyone shares your sensibilities, sense of humour and internal moral code that naturally informs these things, G. Some of us are wired differently and don’t fit in with certain orthodoxies and sensibilities therefore we naturally trip over the social wires that you have constructed for yourself (and which you share with other posters around here due to the homogenised nature of the board). It jars when you read them huh? Oh look, there’s Dougie making a crude joke again, I wish he wouldn’t do that. And about that saintly Greta Thunberg too. How distasteful. It’s why you claim things like this are “sexist” because they break your internal code without recognising that not everyone thinks they are sexist or shares that internal moral code and social mores by which you judge these things. There was nothing sexist about John’s comments, they were merely a comment on human behaviour and the preference that people have for attractive people in life; in the same way that commenting on Justin Trudeau’s looks and how they might influence his political career in a positive way would not be sexist either. It’s just someone thinking out loud but we can’t have that eh? We can't have an off-the-cuff joke taking the piss out of Greta can we? No and I think an apology is in order frankly! Christ, if Greta was an 18 year old bloke I would make the some wisecrack about him. That’s just how I am hence why I can crack jokes about Greta but also express sympathy and reservations about the whole Greta phenomenon from post to post. Truthfully I think the reaction from some is indicative of a kind of weird neuroticism, a consequence of being over-socialised but I’m probably in a minority on that one. But it's why I reckon certain topics on the board can only be touched on but not explored in any real meaty detail which is a shame but there you go. And you talk about “self-reflection”. Lol. Go away Dougie and ruminate on what you did lad.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 2, 2021 17:42:02 GMT
Hmmm ... point taken. But then that line was so obviously inappropriate in my view that I still think it deserved an apology. Does this place me on higher moral ground or being part of the joke police? I dunno, never seen myself like that. I'll shut up next time.
Please continue
I know you're being a bit sarcastic, but none of us should feel intimidated into silence for fear of the flak we might get. Who is being intimidated here?
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 2, 2021 18:16:20 GMT
Me. please don't hurt me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 18:40:01 GMT
I think my point was a good one, you see it as the thought police trying to suppress your individuality. And there doesn't seem to be much common ground, which is a shame, so we'll leave it there with hopefully no hard feelings.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 2, 2021 22:04:32 GMT
I think my point was a good one, you see it as the thought police trying to suppress your individuality. And there doesn't seem to be much common ground, which is a shame, so we'll leave it there with hopefully no hard feelings. No I saw it as you and others being uptight about something that normal people would consider pretty innocuous. Just remember for future reference the next time I trip on the boards wires that some of us are more relaxed about this shit and we are not constrained by the same stuff you are. People are just different like that man. Just think of it as me making this place more diverse! And that's good right?! RIGHT.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 8:28:02 GMT
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Post by cousinlou on Nov 3, 2021 8:35:26 GMT
Well it is distasteful and what point does it serve? I am not easily offended so at these type of remarks I might do a bit of eyerolling if I am in the mood for it but hardly ever would I respond to it. My thumbs up for G's post was in support for the sentiment expressed. Little did I know it would only get worse. 'she should get laid' 'you stole my sexlife' And you all wonder why not more people (womans!) join this board? Yeah why not more women? I guess because of misogynistic men and culture in general the poor little things just don't have what it takes to put the more macho element here in their place. That's a great argument Lou , right on , virtuous and clear as a signal crab looking for a mate.What we struggle with here due to a lack of female posters is shown in part when there was a discussion on what constituted abuse. It was (naturally) approached from a male viewpoint as the female perspective had zero participants. Generally you can make a case that all jokes reveal your politics,views and persona. They don't.Dougie might not have a sense of humour that you approve of but it is just a cheap gag and they arrive here on a daily basis. He also put forward a point of view that from the outside and with limited knowledge accepted that Greta is being exploited and her original behaviour was initially tolerated as a dummy for a screaming child ( as her parents admitted too) or is exploitation of a condition that requires more attention than letting a part of it manifest itself on our t.v screens. We have someone on bcb with the same condition and their wasn't much tolerance or sympathy shown there especially from a female poster. And yet that receives a pass or a vote. I too would like to see more women post on here and I don't know why they don't. I am sure of one thing though , if they did it would be a bonus and they would be treated with respect. I think Dougie and I are of the opinion that everything can be a joke or nothing can be a joke. It's true, I am only on the board to signal my virtues. Hence my post of a few weeks ago about my adventures in jail.
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Post by cousinlou on Nov 3, 2021 8:39:33 GMT
Well it is distasteful and what point does it serve? I am not easily offended so at these type of remarks I might do a bit of eyerolling if I am in the mood for it but hardly ever would I respond to it. My thumbs up for G's post was in support for the sentiment expressed. Little did I know it would only get worse. 'she should get laid' 'you stole my sexlife' And you all wonder why not more people (womans!) join this board? Yeah why not more women? I guess because of misogynistic men and culture in general the poor little things just don't have what it takes to put the more macho element here in their place. That's a great argument Lou , right on , virtuous and clear as a signal crab looking for a mate. What we struggle with here due to a lack of female posters is shown in part when there was a discussion on what constituted abuse. It was (naturally) approached from a male viewpoint as the female perspective had zero participants. Generally you can make a case that all jokes reveal your politics,views and persona. They don't.Dougie might not have a sense of humour that you approve of but it is just a cheap gag and they arrive here on a daily basis. He also put forward a point of view that from the outside and with limited knowledge accepted that Greta is being exploited and her original behaviour was initially tolerated as a dummy for a screaming child ( as her parents admitted too) or is exploitation of a condition that requires more attention than letting a part of it manifest itself on our t.v screens. We have someone on bcb with the same condition and their wasn't much tolerance or sympathy shown there especially from a female poster. And yet that receives a pass or a vote.I too would like to see more women post on here and I don't know why they don't. I am sure of one thing though , if they did it would be a bonus and they would be treated with respect. I think Dougie and I are of the opinion that everything can be a joke or nothing can be a joke. Absolutely incorrect, both on the Googs case as well as in the matter of SoT, Minny and others were called out for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 9:29:24 GMT
And yet Lou it still goes on. And here we are on a new board partly due and despite that poster and the circumstances.
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Post by oh oooh on Nov 3, 2021 9:35:39 GMT
We have a LOT to be thankful for!
PRAISE BE
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Post by cousinlou on Nov 3, 2021 9:37:04 GMT
We have a LOT to be thankful for! PRAISE BE I can hear the angels singing and beckoning me away I can see the golden city and the everlasting day
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 9:58:23 GMT
And yet Lou it still goes on. And here we are on a new board partly due and despite that poster and the circumstances. What goes on? I'm not sure what point is being made here.
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Post by tory on Nov 3, 2021 10:03:07 GMT
This was good. The interviewee doesn't dismiss climate change, but instead says that the way that the data is being presented to us is problematic and that some climate scientists aren't using this correctly.
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Post by oh oooh on Nov 3, 2021 10:24:19 GMT
I don't see any room for doubt any more, Toby. I'm sceptical by nature but we've seen enough reliable reporting over the years now, across all continents, backed by evidence, that the planet is heating up quickly, it's a man-made problem, and we need to act quickly. It's that simple.
I think anyone who dismisses the data at this late stage is not only talking out of their arse but actively fucking up our chances of saving ourselves from ourselves.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 10:34:33 GMT
And yet Lou it still goes on. And here we are on a new board partly due and despite that poster and the circumstances. What goes on? I'm not sure what point is being made here. Thats because I am stating a fact.
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