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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 16, 2021 13:47:10 GMT
It's not really much of a conversation is it? It's the usual activist attack dog approach from people any right thinking person would avoid like the plague but Peterson tries to engage with their madness and you can see the strain on his face lol.
I actually feel sorry for Peterson in that clip. They are maddening people with issues and it's naive to think you can get through to them (not that I necessarily believed he thought he could but as a general comment) but I guess we have to keep on trying and hope that common sense and reality will prevail in the end.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 16, 2021 14:07:16 GMT
Mr. Peterson by his tone isn't taking them seriously with a lilt of condescension, yet they all remain civil. In the US, the condescension would have been noted, and ratcheted this up a confrontation. He was/is lucky.
Gender is larger than race. My experience has been LGBTQI+ concerns/intensity trumps even race, as Mr. Chappelle is finding out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 14:23:50 GMT
Gender is larger than race. My experience has been LGBTQI+ concerns/intensity trumps even race, What does this mean?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 14:24:46 GMT
I don't think they are even listening to him much to be honest. He states on occasion that he didn't say what is repeated back to him. The conversation, as such confrontations generally are is somewhat muddled.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 14:30:30 GMT
I don't think they are even listening to him much to be honest. He states on occasion that he didn't say what is repeated back to him. The conversation, as such confrontations generally are is somewhat muddled. Yeah, but I don't know it's possible to have a constructive conversation in those circumstances.
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Post by osgood on Nov 16, 2021 14:45:26 GMT
If by 'constructive conversation' you mean one in which people can actually get convinced, that simply doesn't happen. Not on the spot. At best you can expose some arguments that eventually might influence someone, but when it comes close to beliefs or ideology, the sentence 'you are right I was wrong, thank you' is not to be expected.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 14:50:49 GMT
If by 'constructive conversation' you mean one in which people can actually get convinced, that simply doesn't happen. Why do you think that's what I mean? I simply mean a conversation where both sides get to have their say and they listen to each other. A conversation such as the above would be better conducted in a studio with a moderator helping structure the conversation.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 16, 2021 14:50:57 GMT
Some Nazi's turned up therefore you must be a Nazi sympathiser and this is proof that you are pushing a hateful ideology...etc.
It's the kind of exchange that's founded on a misrepresentation of a persons ideas and beliefs which is then used to attack the person based on this. It's rooted in this kind of accusatory, bad faith arrogance where some people who seem to be socialised on Twitter rather than the real world go for these cheap gotcha moments that are designed to get them likes on Youtube or whatever rather than actually engaging in any kind of adult discussion around Peterson's beliefs and videos. It's really a kind of modern day, performative digital witch hunt or something. It reminds me of that scene in Holy Grail with the witch and the duck. No matter what Peterson says he's a witch.
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 16, 2021 15:42:57 GMT
it's official. every thread has the potential to become exactly the same thread. this thread is about boobs, jugs, tits... in more ways than one.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Nov 16, 2021 15:48:52 GMT
SCENES from the front line TRENCHES. I hate people like this. They just want to pick a fight and don't want to find out the other person's perspective at all. Starting a conversation with "What about the nazis at your events?" is hardly a good starting point.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Nov 16, 2021 15:50:30 GMT
it's official. every thread has the potential to become exactly the same thread. this thread is about boobs, jugs, tits... in more ways than one.
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 16, 2021 15:56:49 GMT
what about the nazis at your... AAH-OOGA!
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Nov 16, 2021 16:58:16 GMT
it's official. every thread has the potential to become exactly the same thread. this thread is about boobs, jugs, tits... in more ways than one. There is a guilt free, Nazi free Grime thread for you to enjoy!
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 16, 2021 17:01:20 GMT
not until I've had my coffee & my pills!
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Nov 16, 2021 17:09:30 GMT
Some classic Italian NORKS....
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