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Post by rayge on Jun 12, 2023 16:12:19 GMT
Oh yeah, I liked Oasis, despite the Beatlisms, but this is a new order of dross. You nailed the earnestness, John, but in those comments there's people worshiping him as a great vocalist. I could do better than that, and I gleefully admit to being unable to carry a tune in a jewelled reticule (what would someone of my unimpeachable sophistication be doing with a fucking bucket in the first place, eh, reader?). And just look at him. The state of him. From a distance he's got the hairline of a teenage Lego man, but look close up and it's a comb-forward. Maybe the whole fucking thing's a syrup. You're in your fifties, man. Own it. And shut the fuck up.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 12, 2023 18:04:54 GMT
If ever a songwriter was not going to age well it was Noel Gallagher. You have to remember he wrote most of his best stuff before he was even famous. He was still using songs he'd written on the dole in Manchester on Be Here Now ffs. The thing is, Oasis were generally at their best when they weren't trying to be serious. When Noel was just throwing words together in a Marc Bolan style and chancing upon the odd decent pop lyric ("I'm feeling supersonic, give me gin and tonic") they could make it fly but whenever they tried for something more (God help us) "profound" they usually fell flat even if the music occasionally still rescued them (Champagne Supernova). Even something as popular as Wonderwall suffers from this effect because the sentiment and seriousness of Liam's delivery isn't matched by the stupidity of the words so you end up with something bathetic. The one obvious exception is Live Forever where they delivered a few lines that communicated something universal and vaguely transcendent and where the music produced something celebratory and triumphant that worked with the sentiment. Now, as a middle aged man with nothing to prove and with nothing to say what's left for him? In a way a reunion tour with the original band would be less embarrassing because at least it would recognise this is the only period where he actually had something to offer creatively. At least it would be honest and not a ruse. But I guess he can't admit that so you get this performative DAD ROCK ensemble (a cliched trope but, fuck me, spot on here) with fellas who were probably at Spike Island and who wear River Island jeans. I mean, c'mon.
Council Skies? Let that one sink in. Seriously breathe it in fellas. Council Skies. He's actually come up with that title and thought "YEAH". He came up with that title and probably made himself a cup of tea cos he was quietly chuffed with himself whilst he looked out and surveyed his very large garden. You can picture it can't you? Right? And it says so much. The trite sentimentalism, the contrived romanticism, just the mind numbing, uninspired stupidity of it. There are working class kids in their bedrooms right now who would have rejected a title like that for being too on the nose, you know? "I can't use THAT man! Fuck!"
It's truly odd seeing how people react to stuff like this. The Youtube comments (yes!), the general praise in the press, just the collective falseness of the "Godlike genius", HE'S STILL GOT IT LADS vibe that stinks the entire fucking joint out like a dog fart in a stuffy car on a hot day that you can't fucking get rid of. "Open the windows kids, this one's a HANGER"
Just what is going on? Do we just have a generation or two of newer fans who have been brought up on a diet of plastic pop culture to the point where they can't discern the real thing anymore? Is it Oasis fans who were at Knebworth or Loch Lomond in 1996 still trying to conjure up some desultory act of pop necromancy using the medium of Radio fucking 6 and Jo Whiley (or Steve Lamaq?). Is it just retarded fan boy worship?
What is fucking going on? Does it go even deeper? My theory - I have lots of 'em, you may have noticed - is that we live in such a piss poor period for popular culture, from music to film and beyond that what we are experiencing is some kind of collective, mass delusion. When faced with the obvious lack of great pop culture a group of people in the media and the real world have somehow convinced themselves THIS SHIT IS GOOD because they are just so desperate to continue to experience great pop culture as it happens even though the magic and spirit is long, long gone. So you get this fake reality whilst the rest of us, outside this weird little bubble look on in amazement. I dunno what you'd call this phenomenon but I think it needs a name. "False pop consciousness" or something. Hey, everybody! It's Radio 6 and I'm your host LAUREN LAVERNE, here's some FPC for ya!
I give up. The world has broken me.
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Post by loveless on Jun 12, 2023 18:14:28 GMT
"Fucking selfish potato - I woulda sung the FOOK outta Council Skies!"
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Post by fearlessfreap on Jun 12, 2023 18:27:02 GMT
I'm no prize pig, but what the fuck is up with Noel's hair? He looks like he's in Fred Flintstones Water Buffalo lodge.
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Post by loveless on Jun 12, 2023 18:50:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 19:31:48 GMT
I like the brothers for their interviews these days rather than their music. You can say what you want about their music, but they're funny bastards.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jun 13, 2023 10:49:14 GMT
I offer this to you without comment
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 13, 2023 11:57:02 GMT
He's really perfected that looking-like-he's-doing-a-shit face when he sings.
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Post by fange on Jun 13, 2023 11:57:10 GMT
OH JESUS.
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Post by fange on Jun 13, 2023 11:58:16 GMT
The Man City emblems on stage are the cream on top. Fucking hell, he has disappeared up his own arse.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 13, 2023 12:42:19 GMT
Somebody said that on Youtube as well.
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Post by Charlie O. on Jun 13, 2023 14:19:18 GMT
Probably the best song he's ever sung, though.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jun 13, 2023 17:03:23 GMT
When he started singing LWTUA I thought he sounded quite a bit like that Butler fella from Psychedelic Furs, but only for a moment.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jun 28, 2023 15:08:40 GMT
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jun 28, 2023 17:09:50 GMT
I'll take your word for it - I ain't listening to that.
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