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Post by fange on Mar 19, 2024 2:11:46 GMT
A 12-track, double-LP compilation of the Manchester band's 12-inch singles up to that point; at first thought, not what I'd assume would be a massive global hit, but that's what happened - the set went Top 40 in countries everywhere, and solidified the group as one of the most important of the '80s. But what do YOU think of it, dear Preludiners? What did you think when you first heard it or heard about it, and how about now? Where does it stand for you in terms of their catalogue, and in the wider music world? What are your fave songs? Pick the ones you like in the poll and tell us why (if you feel like it). What do you think of the cover art? (I have made the spaces between questions small to allay any fears about my intentions on Charlie's part. As a teacher, i did not like it. If you DO wish to make the spaces large and write the answers on your screen, i don't recommend using permanent ink but i wholeheartedly support your choice.)
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Post by Charlie O. on Mar 19, 2024 2:17:53 GMT
“My” New Order is pretty much the pre-“Blue Monday” New Order, and those are the songs I picked… plus “Bizarre Love Triangle”. And I prefer the original 7” mixes, so I wasn’t thrilled with Substance, though I did buy it.
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Post by fange on Mar 19, 2024 3:01:15 GMT
“My” New Order is pretty much the pre-“Blue Monday” New Order, and those are the songs I picked… plus “Bizarre Love Triangle”. And I prefer the original 7” mixes, so I wasn’t thrilled with Substance, though I did buy it. Yeah, i was wondering if there would be an element of that, and it will be interesting to see where different people draw their "my" New Order lines.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 19, 2024 6:37:06 GMT
Was Procession not on there?
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Post by fange on Mar 19, 2024 7:01:47 GMT
Was it on the CD version maybe?
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 19, 2024 7:10:04 GMT
Apparently not..odd how your memory plays tricks.
I wouldn't say it had a big impact on me because it was a compilation and I already knew all of the tracks, and previously owned most of them, but it was nice to have them all in one place. New Order were often at their best on 12 inch because then their music could stretch out with an almost symphonic building of layers. The 12 inch of Perfect Kiss is the perfect illustration of this and, for me, their greatest moment. Shellshock and State of the Nation are so weak that I never used to bother listening to them, Confusion isn't much better though I liked its sound at the time and have a soft spot for it despite its now dated production. The rest is pure gold though.
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Post by fearlessfreap on Mar 19, 2024 11:23:17 GMT
Procession was on the CD. It was a 2 CD set, the first one was the record in it's entirety, the second was B-sides and rarities. It came out the same year as the record, but in 1987 I was buying CD's largely, I'd buy some indie rock on vinyl, but I was an early adapter of CD and never looked back. I was never a vinyl fetishist and never missed it. I certainly didn't get back into it during the "revival," where a Led Zeppelin album that sold 10 million copies could be had for 40 dollars.
Anyway, New Order seems to irritate a lot of people in the UK for some reason. They were largely underground in the US, so they weren't ubiquitous and I was able to enjoy them without guilt. I loved it when I bought it, and still keep it around, mostly for nostalgia's sake. I thought it was pretty consistent all the way through and it's nice to have the singles all in one place.
The cover sucks, though - it's something you could make yourself even before home computers were a thing.
My favorite song on it is True Faith, and it's ridiculous video is still entertaining. I like most of it, though, as I said, I never had any issues with them.
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Post by loveless on Mar 19, 2024 11:31:36 GMT
What did you think when you first heard it or heard about it, and how about now?
For me, it was the right record at the right time. I'm just a hair younger than some of the other respondents here - folks who would have known the original singles and albums in real time in the years prior. For me in 1987, it was ALL new (matter of fact, I'd bought Staring at the Sea by the Cure in the same month or thereabouts), and - taken in this fashion - it offered a compelling and engaging portrait of a band's chronological progress. On some level, it will always remind me of being the age I was then and living the life I did at the time (first year of college, new town, new everything). If I think of it, I picture my bedroom at 17/18.
I had the compact disc, which contained a second disc of B sides, etc. ("1963" is one that I can remember without looking).
I have warm feelings toward it, although...I can't imagine ever needing to put it on now.
Where does it stand for you in terms of their catalogue, and in the wider music world?
As an encapsulation of where they'd been, gone and all that they'd done up to that point, it's crucial. It occupies its own space 100%.
What are your fave songs? Pick the ones you like in the poll and tell us why (if you feel like it).
True Faith is probably my most enduring favorite. It feels like the pinnacle of a certain development and progress up to that point (a fully realized melody with loads of evocative melancholy). Obviously, Blue Monday is Blue Monday. I like Thieves Like Us, The Perfect Kiss, and Temptation. I probably loved it all at one point (though would agree that State of the Nation is subpar).
What do you think of the cover art?
I think it's perfect!
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Post by adamcoan on Mar 19, 2024 12:54:12 GMT
Every album has a couple of beauties. Generally, after the first two and the god awful blue monday drivel they are of little interest.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 19, 2024 13:01:51 GMT
Blue Monday was magnificent. A game changer.
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Post by adamcoan on Mar 19, 2024 13:07:13 GMT
It wasn't. It isn't. Its drivel. Game show muzak.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Mar 19, 2024 13:16:25 GMT
I think I picked this up when it was released, or very shortly after, and I didn't really like the new versions of a couple of the tunes when I first heard them. It's a decent compendium on the band, but I prefer to listen to the singles and albums, personally.
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Post by DarknessFish on Mar 19, 2024 13:32:24 GMT
I did have this on cassette at some point around the time it came out, I think my brother may have borrowed it from someone, I've certainly not seen it in the last 35 or so years. Hadn't heard of Joy Division at that point, so I'm guessing it must've been pretty close to the point it was released. It didn't grab me back then.
The best songs are clearly Ceremony and Temptation, as they're two of the greatest songs of all-time. Pointless remake of Temptation, though it doesn't really do it any harm. After that, the True Faith and its B-Side 1963 are the best tracks (on the CD and cassette releases), and the latest recordings that you ever need to hear by the band.
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Post by Sneelock on Mar 19, 2024 15:19:42 GMT
What did you think when you first heard it or heard about it, and how about now? they were pretty much dead to me starting with low life
Where does it stand for you in terms of their catalogue, and in the wider music world? I already had "ceremony" and "monday" so I was pretty sniffy about it.
What are your fave songs? Pick the ones you like in the poll and tell us why (if you feel like it). see above. me, blue monday sort of blew me away. it sort of still does. I think part of the reason it still does is that I sternly reject basing their entire career on the damned thing. after PC&L I really felt like they were just cranking out Blue Mondays. is that fair? maybe not. I don't need to be fair. before low life their albums had a lot of ideas. if I wanted anemic, caucasian "dance music" there were a lot of places to get that by the time "substance" came out.
What do you think of the cover art? Factory could do no wrong (packaging-wise) as far as I was concerned. I think they were the Hignosis of the 80's. the packages perfectly complemented what was inside. it's not THEIR fault that what was inside was a pretty thin soup.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 19, 2024 16:05:13 GMT
What are your fave songs? Pick the ones you like in the poll and tell us why (if you feel like it).see above. me, blue monday sort of blew me away. it sort of still does. I think part of the reason it still does is that I sternly reject basing their entire career on the damned thing. after PC&L I really felt like they were just cranking out Blue Mondays. is that fair? maybe not. I'd say PC&L and Low-Life had a lot of variety. Later on they began to sound more homogenised and a bit formulaic, but that didn't start to happen until about 87.
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