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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 15:05:32 GMT
 Vs  Both accepted as talented pop song writers, with a sharp wit and deep meaning songs. Who did it better? |
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Post by "BING E BONG" on Apr 10, 2019 15:09:41 GMT
McAloon's going to walk it. He always does when you talk to serious music fans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 15:12:51 GMT
Beautiful South were terrible. Really terrible.. so it's Macaloon by default.
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Post by Reasonable good Nick on Apr 10, 2019 15:15:44 GMT
McAloon by miles.
I've met them both, and McAloon is a much nicer bloke too.
Heaton has the stronger voice tho'.
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Post by Reasonable good Nick on Apr 10, 2019 15:17:52 GMT
Beautiful South were terrible. Really terrible. I liked their first single an awful lot (Song for Whoever) and still do, but yeah, they were pretty ghastly overall. Heaton gets all this praise for being some sort of great lyricist too, and most of the time you just think, what?!?? He's written some real howlers. |
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Post by "BING E BONG" on Apr 10, 2019 15:20:05 GMT
Beautiful South were terrible. Really terrible. I liked their first single an awful lot (Song for Whoever) and still do, but yeah, they were pretty ghastly overall. Heaton gets all this praise for being some sort of great lyricist too, and most of the time you just think, what?!?? He's written some real howlers. like 'Song For Whoever', you mean? 😉 |
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Post by Reasonable good Nick on Apr 10, 2019 15:21:59 GMT
I thought that lyric was good! (rofl)
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Post by "BING E BONG" on Apr 10, 2019 15:31:24 GMT
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Post by "BING E BONG" on Apr 10, 2019 15:32:18 GMT
I quite like 'Old Red Eyes Is Back'
Was he a bit of a cunt, Nick, or was it just that McAloon was nicer?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 15:34:16 GMT
Which one was Betty backing the last time we did this?
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Post by Reasonable good Nick on Apr 10, 2019 15:43:41 GMT
I quite like 'Old Red Eyes Is Back' Was he a bit of a cunt, Nick, or was it just that McAloon was nicer? Actually yeah, that one is a good lyric too. I think it's more the later stuff that's really awful, from the mid-90s onwards. I lived just along Grafton Street in Hull from Heaton in 1993-94, and you'd see him in one of the local pubs, often absolutely hammered and sometimes acting a bit of a twat. I knew someone who lived next door to him and they said he could be a bit of a bellend, annoying for the sake of it, you know? He used to own the King's Head in Salford and we've seen him a few times in there in recent years, he seemed calmer and more normal then. The Prof knew him pretty well in the 80s, when he was at college in Hull too. So I wouldn't say Heaton's a cunt, but Paddy McAloon is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. An absolute gent. |
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 11, 2019 7:44:02 GMT
If only for Steve McQueen it’s McAloon and it’s not even close.
Heaton is one of those people who does have talent but produces irritating shit you'd expect to hear in B&Q. You suspect he would have produced better records in an earlier era.
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Post by The Red Heifer on Apr 11, 2019 8:08:37 GMT
"The King Of Rock n Roll" is one of the fucking biggest sloppiest turds ever put to record. I haven't heard all of Paul Heaton's recorded works, but I can say without any hesitation whatsoever that he hasn't done anything as bad as that.
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Post by DarknessFish on Apr 11, 2019 8:33:44 GMT
I think Heaton's definitely got the ear for a proper pop tune, and an occasional knack of a good self-deprecating lyric or low-key wit. I couldn't tell you much about McAloon, other than I've never heard an interesting Prefab Sprout track.
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Post by "BING E BONG" on Apr 11, 2019 8:34:11 GMT
Just give 'Song For Whoever' a listen.
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