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Post by tory on Feb 12, 2019 10:59:02 GMT
Technique is everything in snooker. You can be a massive fat cunt and still be brilliant.
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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 12, 2019 12:18:35 GMT
Snooker to me is the one sport/game where the quality of the professionals absolutely seems beyond the ability of mortals. I know it's an indoor game under tightly controlled conditions, so weather/pitch quality don't come into play, but how the fuck they knock in century after century, or brush the edge of the target ball after bouncing off 4 cushions.
Then again, darts is a bit like that, I've even tried to follow the same lifestyle and diet...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 12:22:31 GMT
All sounds terribly thrilling*
* Think I'll stick to embroidery.
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Post by Inspector Norse on Feb 12, 2019 12:23:32 GMT
The attraction of football for me is that it combines the alchemy of team sports with the chance for individuals to express themselves in a charismatic way. Furthermore, football has the explosive potential similar to that of boxing. I don't think there is anything that causes such a reaction as someone belting the ball into the back of the net from 30 yards out. Goals themselves are an absolute thing of beauty- no other sport comes close to the range of ways in which one can be scored. All other team sports are ultimately a bit more predictable in that manner. Then there are the sheer range of players and how they express themselves. The age of the charismatic maverick has passed, but the technique level of players in general has increased a great deal. Almost all these can be applied to any team sport. I know you enjoy soccer most, but please. But no, it's actually true. I read a piece by the fine US-Canadian writer Adam Gopnik a while ago where he intellectualised ice hockey and argued that it was a more difficult, challenging and rewarding sport than football. But while there is certainly something in the idea that its speed and intensity mean that players with creative vision and versatile speed of thought stand out even more, the fact is that football with its larger playing area, greater number of players, more freedom of technique (anything other than the hands can be used), susceptibility to weather conditions, more manipulatable ball (compared to a puck), higher difficulty levels (only a couple of goals per game on average), wider range of skillsets, immense tactical variety, makes for more and more different ways of scoring goals, missing chances, creating opportunities, and not just that but more and more different little moments around the pitch from a great big defensive hoof into row Z to a balletic dribble toward the corner flag to a curled free-kick onto the crossbar to Manchester City completing 157 successive passes without losing possession to the sheer geometric beauty of Benjamin Massing ending Claudio Caniggia's flowing counter-attack in powerful style, all topped off by the referee losing the plot so much he shows Massing a red card and then an extra yellow, despite that not being relevant, just because he feels the foul deserves 50% more punishment. More can happen on the football field than in any other sport and you can play football in more places and situations than any other sport. It's not just freezing muddy PE fields in Whitehaven, it's slum streets in Mexico City or dusty meadows in the Indian countryside. Nobody cracked out a set of hockey clubs and pucks on a First World War battlefield, but we all know what the German and British soldiers did when the fighting stopped at Christmas 1914.
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Post by tory on Feb 12, 2019 12:33:02 GMT
THE END
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 12, 2019 12:39:02 GMT
SLOOP WON'T LIKE THAT ONE BIT
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 12, 2019 12:40:15 GMT
Almost all these can be applied to any team sport. I know you enjoy soccer most, but please. the sheer geometric beauty of Benjamin Massing ending Claudio Caniggia's flowing counter-attack in powerful style, all topped off by the referee losing the plot so much he shows Massing a red card and then an extra yellow, despite that not being relevant, just because he feels the foul deserves 50% more punishment. One of The great moments in world history.
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Post by Inspector Norse on Feb 12, 2019 12:52:13 GMT
the sheer geometric beauty of Benjamin Massing ending Claudio Caniggia's flowing counter-attack in powerful style, all topped off by the referee losing the plot so much he shows Massing a red card and then an extra yellow, despite that not being relevant, just because he feels the foul deserves 50% more punishment. One of The great moments in world history. Just a wonderful combination of geometrical accuracy, perfect understanding of the velocity-impact equation, and absolute cynical twattery.
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Post by tory on Feb 12, 2019 13:25:37 GMT
And everyone in the whole world outside Argentina cheered when it happened...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 13:48:40 GMT
Any writer can subjectively write about their favorite sport and manipulate field dimensions, amount of players on a team, etc., and frame their argument to meet their passion. Baseball has been written about the most poetically of any American sport and there are loads of books and stories on its particular beauty. But, a good writer could write the same about American football, basketball (where you can use your hands) and has been compared to a combination of jazz and dance. Heck, I could write the same thing about volleyball if I really wanted to. It's not about the sport, it's how convincing and good the writer is. That's part of the beauty of any team sport. The description of the sport and its participants in writing. As well as Soccer. I think you were correct when you were talking about the tradition and passion of "football" fans passed down from fathers and mothers to sons and daughters. That's the one claim of yours I agree with.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Feb 12, 2019 13:48:52 GMT
"hockey clubs"
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Post by Inspector Norse on Feb 12, 2019 13:53:17 GMT
Well what do you call it? A puckwhacker?
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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 12, 2019 13:55:32 GMT
Any writer can subjectively write about their favorite sport and manipulate field dimensions, amount of players on a team, etc., and frame their argument to meet their passion. Baseball has been written about the most poetically of any American sport and there are loads of books and stories on its particular beauty. But, a good writer could write the same about American football, basketball (where you can use your hands) and has been compared to a combination of jazz and dance. Heck, I could write the same thing about volleyball if I really wanted to. It's not about the sport, it's how convincing and good the writer is. That's part of the beauty of any team sport. The description of the sport and its participants in writing. Nah, sorry. You couldn't convincingly write about the beauty of American football or baseball in comparison to football, because they're not flowing sports, they're stop-start affairs. I mean, I love cricket as much as the next man, it's probably got a stronger literary heritage than any sport other than boxing, but it can never achieve the beauty of football. And as for basketball. That's just silly. Make the baskets higher, you tools.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 12, 2019 14:01:48 GMT
All sports are equal.
There is as much beauty in X as Y.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Feb 12, 2019 14:12:31 GMT
There isn't a painting in the world that's as beautiful as a great game of golf.
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