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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:14:11 GMT
a weird thing. a common bonding. what is it with those who shun it? even ol' ma skope can't understand it. if she's not texting me about the weather in England, she's texting me about West Ham Utd.
don't get me started on women who 'love' football 'tho.
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Post by oh oooh on Feb 9, 2019 19:24:27 GMT
The sport itself, and people's love for and interest in it, is absolutely unfathomable to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:26:51 GMT
The sport itself, and people's love for and interest in it, is absolutely unfathomable to me. but why? i don't get it. what kind of school did you go to? i need to get to the bottom of all this.
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Post by phenomenalcat on Feb 9, 2019 19:30:53 GMT
"men who don't like football"
an oxymoron
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Post by oh oooh on Feb 9, 2019 19:31:03 GMT
School is certainly partly responsible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 19:39:28 GMT
School is certainly partly responsible. i thought so. please elaborate if it's not too painful.
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Post by tory on Feb 9, 2019 20:46:19 GMT
It's the perfect unscripted soap opera.
Like John, I suspect that the disinterest in it is usually formed by not liking it at school. My son is obsessed by it right now and it appears that his embryonic friendships at school are being shaped by those who like it and those who don't.
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Post by The Red Heifer on Feb 10, 2019 1:36:08 GMT
The sport itself, and people's love for and interest in it, is absolutely unfathomable to me. I know you have Rugby League in your family, plus you're from Whitehaven, has that had an influence on your feelings for football? Or is it just a general dislike of sport in general?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 2:22:36 GMT
Most of my friends have been made through playing sports - playing basketball, baseball, football, water polo or swimming. I can pick up any sport and understand it pretty naturally. My son has four male cousins on my ex's side, who we're closest to, and all played and follow sports. His cousin closest in age to him just made the All Bay Area football team and received a college scholarship to play. My point is he gets lots of exposure to sport.
But I made it a point when we had kids that just because I loved sports - playing and following them - I wasn't going to push my kids into them. If they were interested, great, if not, great.
My son is 16 and the testosterone is fully flowing - he participated in weight training for football, but when it came time for practices in the Fall, dropped out. He didn't like adults yelling at him. He was going to try wrestling, but lasted a week. Sports has little to no interest for him. He likes being active, working out and running, but not sports.
I could care less. That's my thing. My ex used to bug me to get him into sports and we used to play whiffle ball, a form of baseball, in the front yard when he was young, but that was the extent of his interest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 2:32:22 GMT
School is certainly partly responsible. Django of BCB is a good friend. I stayed with him when I visited England eight years ago. He despises sports, and I got the impression that school had a lot to do with that. Graham is pretty tall, but I think he was pretty clumsy when he was young and I think that had something to do with it. Because I'm not a good sitter-arounder, I brought a frisbee to England and I coaxed him to toss it around with me on a nearby field. Now, having played lots of sports, I can tell athletes from non-athletes pretty quickly. He mentioned his problems at school and I told him that I thought he was a good athlete - good reflexes, anticipation, coordination - and I got the impression no one had ever told him that before. When kids find interests, partly it's because they find they're pretty good at it so it's makes practicing it fun. A big part of it is encouragement, which builds confidence. Confidence is a big part in sports, and somewhere up the line, people had never encouraged him so he might build an interest.
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Post by oh oooh on Feb 10, 2019 6:15:01 GMT
The sport itself, and people's love for and interest in it, is absolutely unfathomable to me. I know you have Rugby League in your family, plus you're from Whitehaven, has that had an influence on your feelings for football? Or is it just a general dislike of sport in general? I don't know whether coming from Whitehaven has had much impact in this regard. Maybe on a low level. I've never been keen on sport in general but I find football especially horrible. It didn't help that we were forced (I don't think that's too strong a word) to play football at school, but my dislike of the spectacle is another thing altogether. It's just a mess to watch - lots of tiny bodies scuttling around, long periods of utter tedium and then suddenly a huge roar and fellas hugging each other just because someone kicked the ball into a net. You know, I think the onus is on the supporters to explain the attraction of this nonsense...
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Post by tory on Feb 10, 2019 8:48:34 GMT
The attraction of football for me is that it combines the alchemy of team sports with the chance for individuals to express themselves in a charismatic way.
Furthermore, football has the explosive potential similar to that of boxing. I don't think there is anything that causes such a reaction as someone belting the ball into the back of the net from 30 yards out. Goals themselves are an absolute thing of beauty- no other sport comes close to the range of ways in which one can be scored. All other team sports are ultimately a bit more predictable in that manner.
Then there are the sheer range of players and how they express themselves. The age of the charismatic maverick has passed, but the technique level of players in general has increased a great deal.
Then you've got the myriad histories of clubs, the partisan atmosphere of grounds and their supporters and so much more.
In Britain, perhaps most importantly, football is the last major expression of working class identity left.
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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2019 9:23:35 GMT
tiddlywinks?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 10:10:14 GMT
Sports teams are like clan associations - a means of social bonding channelling allegiances and emotion including sometimes aggression.
To a small extent, the football/rugby division (as much as there is one) is a class thing - football being more traditionally working class and posher elements liking rugby (well, posh and Welsh). The school background may contribute to that. Interestingly, in France it's the other way around, rugby is less 'posh' than football.
Me I can't fucking stand football, don't want to hear about it. The top players having an extorted percentage of prima fucking donnas and brats. That said, Rayge is a keen Tottenham supporter but at home but he doesn't insist on giving me the details (so many football fans can't help themselves in my experience) that I'm kinda pleased for him when his team do well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 10:14:21 GMT
Also, maybe, having older people in the family as a child using the one television to watch football on Saturdays and final fucking score may be an influence about tolerance of it - if you weren't into it in the first place.
Edit: And I went to an all-girls school, naturally no football. Hockey and lacrosse all the way.
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