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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 13:03:45 GMT
Did KC ever better the debut? I hope so. The debut isn't very good.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Apr 15, 2020 13:10:59 GMT
I think ELP's debut might be more musically solid than KC's debut, which has a great three tunes then filler.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 15, 2020 13:11:02 GMT
Oh I like it. I've found most everything else they did rather formless.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 15, 2020 14:20:20 GMT
The big hitters are a lot better than the rest. Yes and Genesis have their moments. Close to the Edge and The Lamb... are rich records, lots of ideas, impressive overall. Is this really true though? Post some tracks to state your case. I noticed I never replied to this. Some Genesis for G...
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Apr 15, 2020 15:45:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 15:45:10 GMT
I was only kidding!
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Apr 15, 2020 16:59:39 GMT
I think this is my favourite tune off of 'The Lamb..", but I wish they'd given it a proper ending and not had it segue into "It", which is probably my least favourite tune on the album.
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Post by oh oooh on Apr 15, 2020 19:43:37 GMT
Dougie likes a bit of pomp in his tunes. Wagner, Queen, this lot.
Some of us of a gentler disposition find it unpalatable.
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Post by oh oooh on Apr 15, 2020 19:45:58 GMT
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Post by rayge on Apr 15, 2020 19:51:29 GMT
Dougie likes a bit of pomp in his tunes. Wagner, Queen, this lot. Some of us of a gentler disposition find it unpalatable. Cup of cold sick territory in my view
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Post by oh oooh on Apr 15, 2020 20:06:17 GMT
Aye
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Post by nolamike on Oct 13, 2020 17:38:12 GMT
I try and give all music a chance, and I've always held the opinions that a) most musicians play music for the love of it, and play what they would like to listen to, and b) that if I don't like something, it's most likely something to do with me than with the music. However, I really can't find anything in the broad church of prog that does anything for me at all. Perhaps Soft Machine vols 1 & 2, but they even decided to call that 'The Canterbury Scene' because it was musically palatable. And it's strange for me, because I do like musicians who push the boundaries (yeah, even musicians that can play, like Ayler & Coltrane). I think for me that it's largely rooted in a style that I dont particularly like, 70s rock, and that all the progressive' elements keep it firmly embedded in that style. Even when the acts embrace a bit of jazz or folk, they don't move from the 70s rock foundation. It keeps the guitars, it keeps the synth, it doesn't bring in the freedom of jazz, it doesn't bring in the earthiness or lightness of touch of folk, it becomes 70s rock++. It just doubles down and becomes more inward. That's how I see it, largely, anyway. Perhaps I'm just rationalising a kneejerk reaction I have. Perhaps I'm just talking shite to myself on a message board. But I can't find anything out there in the progosphere that's acceptable. That's pretty much where I am with it as well. For a genre that prides itself on being adventurous and innovative, it's... not particularly exciting or fresh, at least to my ears. Overall, it lacks the energy/ferocity of the garage bands that preceded it and the punk bands that followed it; it isn't anywhere near as adventurous and convention-shattering as jazz from that era (not just Ayler and Coltrane, but the Art Ensemble of Chicago, Anthony Braxton, Ornette Coleman, etc., etc). I don't mind some prog here and there - I still have a soft spot for some Yes tracks, some limited KC, some Soft Machine, etc. - but I'd struggle to make it through a full album of the stuff. I'd also say it's a gnere that seems to be somewhat humorless - or at least, it's fans often can be.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 13, 2020 18:00:44 GMT
Etron Fou Le Loublan - Batelages [Full Album] 1976
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