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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 8, 2022 10:46:55 GMT
Just google 'Scottish bands' Big Country, Runrig, all that lot Runrig didn't have a top 40 album until 1989. When you say "all that lot" who do you mean though? My point is, Scottish pop music from that period is actually pretty eclectic and nothing at all like those two bands.
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Post by rayge on Dec 8, 2022 10:47:04 GMT
You could make a list of 500 English bands and they'd still be the exceptions because there have been 250,000 examples through the decades.
I know you're a language teacher, John, but that is numerate stupidism.
Eh? 'exceptions' is synonymous with 'small minority', right? soz, you answered while I was editing to make it clear. Your statement is essentially meaningless because it is about proportions yet does not take into account the relative sizes of the original wholes.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 8, 2022 10:49:48 GMT
Just google 'Scottish bands' Big Country, Runrig, all that lot Two bands. There are some bad strains in Scottish music, Dougie has covered them in his post, but it's still a long list of great records to come out of Scotland and nothing you've said so far, in your very lazy argument, has refuted that.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 8, 2022 10:57:08 GMT
(rofl)
Fellas there are MATHS PROBLEMS that need to be sorted!
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 8, 2022 10:58:30 GMT
(rofl) Fellas there are MATHS PROBLEMS that need to be sorted! Go on then. I'll watch.
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Post by rayge on Dec 8, 2022 11:00:57 GMT
Just google 'Scottish bands' Big Country, Runrig, all that lot Runrig didn't have a top 40 album until 1989. When you say "all that lot" who do you mean though? My point is, Scottish pop music from that period is actually pretty eclectic and nothing at all like those two bands.To Dougie: Yep. My persona experience is that the country was definitely punching well above its weight from the late 1970s to the 1990s when I finally lost touch with the Kids. To JC
Dismissing the Fire Engines, when they produced not only great records of their own, but bands such as Win!, Nectarine No.9 and Dali's Car grew out of them, taking the beefheartian tradition and moving it on, is wilfully daft. All the bands on Fast and Postcard were great (although not all Scottish in the latter case), there were loads of fine one-off singles on independent labels, plus the whole Paisley scene, the Pastels, Vaselines, and of course Scotland's greatest ever artist, Jackie Leven, by far Britain's greatest singer-songwriter, and Doll by Doll (which did include non-Scots). And the Jesus and Mary Chain were a very fine band indeed, no matter how knobby were the heads of its members. So there.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 8, 2022 11:01:05 GMT
2 + “all those bands” = y
If “all those bands” = X define X
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 8, 2022 11:02:34 GMT
it's this bloody nonsense I was responding to I think more great records came out of Scotland than any other place, other than Memphis in the 60s or somewhere like that. but on ye go
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Post by DarknessFish on Dec 8, 2022 11:04:35 GMT
Orange Juice, Simple Minds, The Associates, The Fire Engines, The Cocteau Twins, The Blue Nile, Jesus and Mary Chain, Aztec Camera, Josef K, Altered Images, The Scars, The Waterboys etc. It's a pretty impressive list. Post 60s (because I take the point that American cities such as New Orleans, Memphis, Chicago and Detroit produced more in that time), I'd say it compares favourably to anywhere. There's probably a case for Sheffield on its own having a better list of bands, for the same era.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 8, 2022 11:07:27 GMT
Manchester
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 8, 2022 11:08:14 GMT
Orange Juice, Simple Minds, The Associates, The Fire Engines, The Cocteau Twins, The Blue Nile, Jesus and Mary Chain, Aztec Camera, Josef K, Altered Images, The Scars, The Waterboys etc. It's a pretty impressive list. Post 60s (because I take the point that American cities such as New Orleans, Memphis, Chicago and Detroit produced more in that time), I'd say it compares favourably to anywhere. There's probably a case for Sheffield on its own having a better list of bands, for the same era. Not really, although I would concede if you combined Manchester and Sheffield they'd compete. Shefield - Human League, Heaven 17, Cabaret Voltaire, Comsat Angels, ABC. You can't really include Pulp as they didn't get good until long after the period we're talking about.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 8, 2022 11:09:43 GMT
DF is going to bring up Clock DVA now isn't he?
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Post by rayge on Dec 8, 2022 11:10:36 GMT
There's probably a case for Sheffield on its own having a better list of bands, for the same era. Not really, although I would concede if you combined Manchester and Sheffield they'd compete. Shefield - Human League, Heaven 17, Cabaret Voltaire, Comsat Angels, ABC. You can't really include Pulp as they didn't get good until long after the period we're talking about. What is this period we're talking about?
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 8, 2022 11:11:29 GMT
I'd say Manchester's reputation is a little overstated, but the major bands they did produce punched big.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 8, 2022 11:11:59 GMT
Not really, although I would concede if you combined Manchester and Sheffield they'd compete. Shefield - Human League, Heaven 17, Cabaret Voltaire, Comsat Angels, ABC. You can't really include Pulp as they didn't get good until long after the period we're talking about. What is this period we're talking about?
Late 70s/80s I presumed.
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