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Aug 23, 2023 12:54:08 GMT
Post by oh oooh on Aug 23, 2023 12:54:08 GMT
Old SNL episodes from the 70's are unwatchable, I thought they were funny at the time. I think the best stuff is great - some of those Belushi sketches, Steve Martin ('excuuuuuse me!'), Bill Murray, Gilda Radner. All way better than anything I've seen over the last couple of decades on the show.
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Aug 23, 2023 13:02:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 13:02:39 GMT
From a lot of SNL that i have watched in clips and streaming old shows. The sweet spot was the troupe of, Wiig, Rudolph, Armisen, Meyers and Hader. With special mentions for forte and sudeikis. I thought they were the funniest. Then again it's down to your own taste, i think i read that period of SNL struggled for ratings which shocks me. Farrell etc who came before was funny too, just not as funny as the comedians i mentioned. Meyer's talk show makes me wonder sometimes how much writing he did for SNL, because his monologues are just not funny. When he was top dog at SNL, maybe his talent was spotting something funny rather than writing it.
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Aug 23, 2023 13:03:44 GMT
Post by oh oooh on Aug 23, 2023 13:03:44 GMT
Well, yeah, writing and performing are two very different skills.
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Aug 23, 2023 13:06:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 13:06:39 GMT
Out side of weekend update and when he first arrived, he didn't do much performing. He just played the straight man to the likes of stefon, which was fucking hilarious. One of my favorite things ever to come out of SNL.
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Aug 23, 2023 13:08:26 GMT
Post by oh oooh on Aug 23, 2023 13:08:26 GMT
Bill Hader is VERY good.
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Aug 23, 2023 13:11:04 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 13:11:04 GMT
He really is, Watch Barry if you haven't already. It's the best under the radar show for....god knows how long.
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Aug 23, 2023 13:11:13 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Aug 23, 2023 13:11:13 GMT
Politics isn't funny in general and dates because it's topical. Comedy usually has to have some kind of truth to it so if you're coming at thing from an angle it compromises the humour because it demonstrates bias and a lack of commitment to truth.
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Aug 23, 2023 13:13:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 13:13:47 GMT
Are you talking about politics in a stand up routine, or in general in any form it not being funny?
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Aug 23, 2023 13:19:33 GMT
Haven't watched alot of him but, Manning never overly let you know which side he was on? Really? I'm saying he made it clear over time. But his comedy wasn't political as such. Not sure he did to be honest. His attitudes were typical of working class blokes of the time, some of whom would have been Labour supporters and others Tory voters.
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Aug 23, 2023 13:25:46 GMT
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Post by DarknessFish on Aug 23, 2023 13:25:46 GMT
Not as tedious as that clip Toby posted though. Christ, I can't imagine being so defined by my politics that I'd search something like that out. Jimmy Carr is more a traditional pun guy, doesn't normally go much further than feedline-punchline, though the punchline is often a politically incorrect thought, and certainly not left wing. What do you mean "so defined by my politics?" He was on the Comedy Unleashed channel - that's how I found out about him. Would you go and see a self-professed but more blokey and amenable right-wing comedian like Geoff Norcott? No? Then you also are defined by your politics in your choices. No. I'd watch anyone. Norcott's OK, but pretty much your standard panel show comic.
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Aug 23, 2023 14:09:48 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Aug 23, 2023 14:09:48 GMT
Are you talking about politics in a stand up routine, or in general in any form it not being funny? More stand up. Something like the The Thick of It is funny because it satirises politics and institutions i.e. the whole thing rather than going "oooo Tories, oooo Labour". But stands ups having digs at Trump? Not my thing.
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Aug 23, 2023 14:17:57 GMT
Post by tory on Aug 23, 2023 14:17:57 GMT
The "cheeto-faced wankpuffin" brigade destroyed that sort of comedy.
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Aug 23, 2023 14:22:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 14:22:10 GMT
Are you talking about politics in a stand up routine, or in general in any form it not being funny? More stand up. Something like the The Thick of It is funny because it satirises politics and institutions i.e. the whole thing rather than going "oooo Tories, oooo Labour". But stands ups having digs at Trump? Not my thing. That's what i was thought you meant. I read it as all comedy including political satire.
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Aug 23, 2023 14:29:32 GMT
Post by Reactionary Rage on Aug 23, 2023 14:29:32 GMT
The "cheeto-faced wankpuffin" brigade destroyed that sort of comedy. Armando Iannucci and co took it as far as they could go but the wordplay and, in particular, the Malcolm Tucker character is basically responsible for all that stuff.
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Aug 23, 2023 14:29:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 14:29:53 GMT
I'm reminded of a show on channel 4 last year or the year before. Stand up to cancer or something, where they got celebrities lined up with comedians to coach them to do a stand up routine. MP Baroness Warsi (Tory party not preludin Tory, unless...nevermind) got matched up with the seriously unfunny Nick Helm. When Helm found out he was disgusted, i mean it took it like mills at the end of the film seven disgusted. A total over reaction. He made himself look like a tit. I remember thinking, just leave that shit to the yanks. Baddiel had a dickish moment too with Richard Coles, were he purposely cursed in his church to make sure everyone knew he was an atheist. Even as a atheist myself, there's still a level of respect, he was being a cunt.
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