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Post by Sneelock on Apr 12, 2021 18:59:55 GMT
"hypocrisy" is a very hard working word for the Amercian right. nobody who says they care about X can do Y or it proves Z. LOL.
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Apr 12, 2021 19:06:07 GMT
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Post by daveythefatboy on Apr 12, 2021 19:06:07 GMT
"hypocrisy" is a very hard working word for the Amercian right. nobody who says they care about X can do Y or it proves Z. LOL. They certainly don’t worry about hypocrisy when it comes to Supreme Court justice confirmations... or really anything else where it requires them to hold to a standard.
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Apr 12, 2021 19:07:30 GMT
Post by Sneelock on Apr 12, 2021 19:07:30 GMT
but if you say you care about the poor and you're rich. HOOOOO boy.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Apr 12, 2021 19:12:49 GMT
but if you say you care about the poor and you're rich. HOOOOO boy. We’re supposed to live in a Capitalist system and act is if we’re in a more Socialist system - all on our own. That makes sense... right?
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Post by rayge on Apr 20, 2021 9:04:51 GMT
A bit lairy of bumping this thread, but I thought that this piece, although rather long and joke-free for our younger readers, was a very interesting read, particularly - although not exclusively – in its older historical material. Every so often, the academic I was once set to become re-emerges.
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Apr 20, 2021 14:33:34 GMT
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Post by daveythefatboy on Apr 20, 2021 14:33:34 GMT
You didn’t attach an article Ray.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Apr 20, 2021 14:35:59 GMT
You didn’t attach an article Ray. He hotlinked it to the word "this" in his first sentence.
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Apr 20, 2021 14:41:17 GMT
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Post by daveythefatboy on Apr 20, 2021 14:41:17 GMT
You didn’t attach an article Ray. He hotlinked it to the word "this" in his first sentence. My eyes aren’t good enough to see that on my phone.
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Apr 20, 2021 14:48:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 14:48:57 GMT
Good article that.
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Apr 20, 2021 15:31:48 GMT
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Post by daveythefatboy on Apr 20, 2021 15:31:48 GMT
Yes. Very good article. A few quotes that leapt out at me:
-Among liberals and conservatives, racism was widely understood as a species of hatred, which meant that any white person who could look into his heart and find an absence of open hostility could absolve himself of racism.-
-Late in his life, James Baldwin described whiteness as “a moral choice”, as a way of emphasising that it was not a natural fact. But whiteness is more than a moral choice: it is a dense network of moral choices, the vast majority of which have been made for us, often in times and places very distant from our own. In this way whiteness is a problem like climate change or economic inequality: it is so thoroughly imbricated in the structure of our everyday lives that it makes the idea of moral choices look quaint.-
It would be nice if these two ideas were fully digested and reckoned with around here when this subject is discussed in the future.
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Post by Sneelock on Apr 20, 2021 15:46:04 GMT
I don't know how I got signed up to Historian Heather Cox Richardson's daily emails but I've really been enjoying them. Today she draws what she sees as a straight line from the Civil War to the Gun Violence of today. How do you get from one point to the other? In her opinion - "Brown VS the Board of Education" heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/april-19-2021I think this is another very well thought out and well reasoned piece.
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Apr 20, 2021 16:56:57 GMT
Post by rayge on Apr 20, 2021 16:56:57 GMT
I don't know how I got signed up to Historian Heather Cox Richardson's daily emails but I've really been enjoying them. Today she draws what she sees as a straight line from the Civil War to the Gun Violence of today. How do you get from one point to the other? In her opinion - "Brown VS the Board of Education" heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/april-19-2021I think this is another very well thought out and well reasoned piece. one-third of cowboys were people of colour. wow
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Apr 20, 2021 17:05:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 17:05:47 GMT
Yes. Very good article. A few quotes that leapt out at me: -Among liberals and conservatives, racism was widely understood as a species of hatred, which meant that any white person who could look into his heart and find an absence of open hostility could absolve himself of racism.- -Late in his life, James Baldwin described whiteness as “a moral choice”, as a way of emphasising that it was not a natural fact. But whiteness is more than a moral choice: it is a dense network of moral choices, the vast majority of which have been made for us, often in times and places very distant from our own. In this way whiteness is a problem like climate change or economic inequality: it is so thoroughly imbricated in the structure of our everyday lives that it makes the idea of moral choices look quaint.- It would be nice if these two ideas were fully digested and reckoned with around here when this subject is discussed in the future. I don't know what the second point means.
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Apr 20, 2021 17:30:22 GMT
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Post by daveythefatboy on Apr 20, 2021 17:30:22 GMT
Yes. Very good article. A few quotes that leapt out at me: -Among liberals and conservatives, racism was widely understood as a species of hatred, which meant that any white person who could look into his heart and find an absence of open hostility could absolve himself of racism.- -Late in his life, James Baldwin described whiteness as “a moral choice”, as a way of emphasising that it was not a natural fact. But whiteness is more than a moral choice: it is a dense network of moral choices, the vast majority of which have been made for us, often in times and places very distant from our own. In this way whiteness is a problem like climate change or economic inequality: it is so thoroughly imbricated in the structure of our everyday lives that it makes the idea of moral choices look quaint.- It would be nice if these two ideas were fully digested and reckoned with around here when this subject is discussed in the future. I don't know what the second point means. Essentially it is addressing racism as a system rather than a choice.
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Apr 20, 2021 17:35:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 17:35:39 GMT
But if we don't have a choice then there's nothing we can do about it
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