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Post by tory on Apr 23, 2019 12:13:05 GMT
The Hound survives surely to fight and kill the Mountain.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 12:33:32 GMT
The brotherhusband and sisterwife will have a baby?!?!
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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 24, 2019 8:54:41 GMT
The Hound survives surely to fight and kill the Mountain. That's the expectation isn't it? I thought this week's episode was excellent, one of the best in years, but what I think the later series still suffer from is more predictability about the characters' fates. It seems a little too obvious that certain characters will survive the battle as they have unfinished business elsewhere: The Hound, Jon and Dany, Tyrion and Jamie thanks to the introduction of the Cersei assassination plot. The Hound aside there's a separation of the "major players" from the supporting characters; only the Stark girls from the Stark-Targaryen-Lannister families seem potentially expendable next week (although "vulnerable" is hardly a word to use with Arya). I'd like them to go back to where they began and pull the rug out from under us and surprise us by offing someone we thought would be there till the end: Jon or Dany, maybe (although the former has survived one death already, and Melisandre is still out there somewhere, so...).
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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 29, 2019 21:06:44 GMT
MEH
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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 29, 2019 21:11:24 GMT
Warning spoilers
Ooh wow all that fog and flame and shit it's just like watching a real battle where you sit for 80 minutes not really knowing what's going on other than that whatever it is it cost a lot of money to have all those silhouettes running round and crashing into one another
Ooh and when it clears for a second all you can see is all the named characters getting through the battle somehow because oh right Gendry is somehow BATTLEMASTER EXTRAORDINAIRE and Pod, Jaime and Brienne up against a wall can OF COURSE KILL THREE MILLION ZOMBIES and yeah Sam LYING DOWN ON THE FLOOR IN THE MIDDLE OF A BATTLE WILL OF COURSE HELP YOU SURVIVE and seriously I have defended the show but that was a bit shit really.
AND WHAT THE FUCK WAS BRAN DOING INSIDE THAT FUCKING BIRD THE WHOLE TIME
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Post by fange on Apr 30, 2019 1:43:26 GMT
(rofl) (rofl)
Suspend reality, just go with the flow. At this stage it's all about the theatre, and trying to tie up character lines as neatly as possible. I'm glad it was Arya who did the deed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 5:42:49 GMT
Warning spoilers AND WHAT THE FUCK WAS BRAN DOING INSIDE THAT FUCKING BIRD THE WHOLE TIME Enticing the Night King towards him. He knew all along what was to pan out, which is why he gave the blade to Arya in the first place. I do agree somewhat on the pacing of the battle though, too many of the important characters seemed overwhelmed for too long but still seemingly survived. I still think it was great TV though. For the supposed true king, Jon's composure in battle is ridiculous as well. So, the 'brown eyes, blue eyes, green eyes' prophecy for Arya is becoming real (Walder Frey, Night King,... Cersei?).
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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 30, 2019 7:20:39 GMT
Warning spoilers AND WHAT THE FUCK WAS BRAN DOING INSIDE THAT FUCKING BIRD THE WHOLE TIME Enticing the Night King towards him. He knew all along what was to pan out, which is why he gave the blade to Arya in the first place. Yeah I guess that makes sense. Because the millennia-old leader of the largest and most fearsome and unkillable army the world has ever seen will quite happily walk right into a fucking trap like that. Stupid, stupid plotting. If Bran knows what is going to happen it renders the whole bloody thing redundant. Why didn't he tell everyone two bloody series ago?
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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 30, 2019 7:23:49 GMT
Suspend reality, just go with the flow. At this stage it's all about the theatre, and trying to tie up character lines as neatly as possible. I'm glad it was Arya who did the deed. Yeah, it was good that she got the moment instead of Jon or someone, but it's hard not to feel a bit underwhelmed by how quickly it was all wrapped up. Seven series of build-up and then the Night's Army don't even make it past the first proper battle. There were some really well-directed, exciting and tense moments last night - the opening of the battle with the Dothraki hurtling forward, emboldened by their flaming swords, only to be almost wiped out in the darkness while everyone else watches in terror, just a handful of grim-faced survivors fleeing back to the lines - but the plotting undermined everything that the series has made its name on. It abandoned the unpredictable and uncompromising in favour of Hollywood heroics. It's not that I want everyone to die or anything, I just think that the show made its name on depicting the grimness and unfairness of this medieval world, and for them all to get through a battle like that unscathed is plain silly.
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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 30, 2019 7:45:53 GMT
And also, they've just SAVED THE WORLD FROM A MASSIVE UNDEAD ARMY.
The last three episodes of bickering about who gets to sit on a chair that changes hands every couple of years anyway can't help but a feel a bit of an afterthought.
Sorry, I'll stop moaning and try to look forward to some proper resolutions now!
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 30, 2019 7:53:43 GMT
Sounds like bobbins.
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Post by fange on Apr 30, 2019 8:06:23 GMT
Suspend reality, just go with the flow. At this stage it's all about the theatre, and trying to tie up character lines as neatly as possible. I'm glad it was Arya who did the deed. Yeah, it was good that she got the moment instead of Jon or someone, but it's hard not to feel a bit underwhelmed by how quickly it was all wrapped up. Seven series of build-up and then the Night's Army don't even make it past the first proper battle. There were some really well-directed, exciting and tense moments last night - the opening of the battle with the Dothraki hurtling forward, emboldened by their flaming swords, only to be almost wiped out in the darkness while everyone else watches in terror, just a handful of grim-faced survivors fleeing back to the lines - but the plotting undermined everything that the series has made its name on. It abandoned the unpredictable and uncompromising in favour of Hollywood heroics. It's not that I want everyone to die or anything, I just think that the show made its name on depicting the grimness and unfairness of this medieval world, and for them all to get through a battle like that unscathed is plain silly. That is true, in a sense. But the Night King sub-plot was always that - a sub-plot. The true core story of GoT is the dance to the Iron Throne; saving most of the main characters for that struggle over the last 5 episodes was clearly a priority over being truthful to what a real battle would have been like, and whether Jaime, Sam and Brienne could possibly have survived.
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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 30, 2019 8:27:06 GMT
I don't know: there was always the sense that the Night King was the true threat and Jon the most central character trying to get everyone else to realise that and abandon their power plays. It's led to a bit of a pacing issue in this series, I think. If we think back to the early days then yeah, the politics, dynamics and dialogue were what gave the show its spark but that's been buried under the spectacle now and it feels pretty anticlimactic.
I'd be hoping that there were more surprises on the way but this last episode was a step too far away from that for me to really believe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 12:49:51 GMT
Enticing the Night King towards him. He knew all along what was to pan out, which is why he gave the blade to Arya in the first place. Yeah I guess that makes sense. Because the millennia-old leader of the largest and most fearsome and unkillable army the world has ever seen will quite happily walk right into a fucking trap like that. Stupid, stupid plotting. If Bran knows what is going to happen it renders the whole bloody thing redundant. Why didn't he tell everyone two bloody series ago? The bloke's dead and comatose and getting to Bran was the whole point of him re-emerging anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 13:21:29 GMT
So, the 'brown eyes, blue eyes, green eyes' prophecy for Arya is becoming real (Walder Frey, Night King,... Cersei?). Wait, Littlefinger had green eyes, didn't he? Ah well. A Jaime/Cersei match up is still the most likely.
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