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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 11:03:09 GMT
Aye. If I'm totally honest I'm mostly miffed at him for not giving Ghost a proper goodbye.
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Post by countmachuki on May 13, 2019 16:37:35 GMT
what the fuck was THAT?!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 19:44:48 GMT
Rushed
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Post by Inspector Norse on May 13, 2019 21:34:15 GMT
Arya Stark IS Bruce Willis in ’Unbreakable’
Also Euron being the only survivor of the fleet getting destroyed and washing up RIGHT in the secret smuggling spot.
Otherwise yeah that was pretty, um, striking.
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Post by tory on May 14, 2019 6:19:53 GMT
Jon will kill Daenerys obvs.
Tyrion will survive and become the new leader.
I liked the aesthetics of that episode- like Hiroshima or a fire bombed Hamburg.
Cleganebowl was shite though.
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Post by fange on May 14, 2019 8:04:40 GMT
I think Arya's journey through the burning city has set her on the path to kill Daeny now. Jon is still too emotionally attached to kill her, i think; Arya has no such issues.
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Post by tory on May 14, 2019 8:54:06 GMT
Jon has to die too I think. Maybe Arya has to kill Jon to then kill Daenerys.
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Post by Inspector Norse on May 14, 2019 10:01:50 GMT
A lot of Internet Fanboys are moaning about Daenerys "turning" and saying it's ruined the show but surely it's been coming a long time. Her whole ARC has been about the conflict between her desire to do good and "break the wheel" and her egomaniacal, ruthless tendencies. I think the show did a good job of showing how that combined with the loss of so many people close to her - Jorah, Missandei, finally Jon - and inability to trust her advisors - many scenes, pertinent with hindsight, of her disapproving of Tyrion's errors, and then Varys' betrayal, and her blaming Jon - pushed her over the edge.
What was missing was her own perspective, I think; she's been sidelined a bit in terms of the point-of-view narratives, although there was a good scene last week when she was looking, during the feast, with mounting paranoia at all the different factions she thought might turn against her. But we've not really been given enough of a sense of how alone she must feel in a new country with a mistrusting population; this is where the show has left itself open to criticism, with this progression and these feelings being instead voiced by the men around her.
Still, I think it was a brave while logical move to have her go DRAGONSHIT all over the place and it sets up a good finale.
Other shit that went down:
Arya moving through the collapsing town made for some very effective scenes, really well filmed with a harrowing and striking look to them. Nice unsentimental touches too, for example with her leading the girl and her mother to their deaths rather than saving them. Still, she survived how many cave-ins and collapsing buildings and dragon attacks? That was more of that Battle of Winterfell Plot Armour, that was.
Euron Greyjoy was rubbish and I was happy to see him get wiped out swiftly in a mundane way in the midst of a dragon attack. Less happy to see him return in a major coincidence just as Jaime arrived at the hidden boat (that was presumably what Davos' favour for Tyrion was?). His death, though, alone and inconsequential but thinking himself a bigshot, was appropriate.
Jaime's ARC didn't really make sense. He should really have been the one to put Cersei out of her misery rather than trying to save her and comforting her when they ran out of escape routes.
Prior to the dragon flying amok, I was quite pleasantly surprised by how easily the besieging forces took King's Landing. Instead of yet another battle we got a swift and effective attack which I thought made for a neat and unexpected turn of events with drama of its own... although I think they could have made it a bit clearer just why Drogon was so able to avoid all the big crossbow things despite the other dragon getting taken down so easily last week. I'm assuming that the other one (Rhaegal? I can never remember) was injured from the Winterfell battle and that Drogon benefitted from being ridden by Daenerys who could steer him. But anyway.
Bit of a lame way for Varys to bow out. The old Varys would be smarter than to try conspiring with Jon in plain daylight. Unless there was an ulterior motive...
Cleganebowl was always going to be a letdown given that people had been building it up for about four years, and there was certainly a stupid video game aspect to the Mountain shedding his armour and behaving like an end-of-level boss. But I did find it amusing the way he mashed Qyburn and how Cersei just buggered off and left them to it.
And I'll reiterate, no way can this end with Jon as King. He's too much his pretend father's son. He might not have the blood, but he's got the personality and that should, if the series is at all true to itself, get him killed.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 11:36:05 GMT
Jon to incinerate Dany as Drogon will prob obey him?
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Post by Reasonable good Nick on May 14, 2019 14:29:10 GMT
Rincewind will take the horcrux to Mordor.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on May 14, 2019 14:30:37 GMT
After third lunch.
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Post by alejandro on May 14, 2019 16:43:55 GMT
Jon to incinerate Dany as Drogon will prob obey him? I think the opposite - Dany will attempt to execute Jon in the same way she has Varys and the Tarlys, leading to a bit of an "I'm Iron M- I mean Aegon Targaryen" moment. I don't see him using Drogon because to me the dragons are being very evidently treated as shorthand for tyranny. I suspect no one will end on the throne, or he might but will be forced to step out of Ned's shadow to do so. Other than that I agree with Norse's observations, even if I didn't mind Jamie's arc or Varys' death too much. The episode had a bit of a Come and See feel to it, I'm sure it was used as a reference and directly quoted through thay shell-shocked fourth-wall-breaking gaze Arya had throughout; all of which I quite enjoyed, it's suitably horrific.
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Post by driftin on May 14, 2019 16:46:02 GMT
What happens in the final episode:
Dany takes all of King's Landing, has Tyrion thrown in prison and is going to have him executed later. Jon is still unsure about what to do. Arya and Sansa convince him to stop being a twat. Arya or Jon kills Dany. Jon makes the most sense but Arya needs one last major assassination according to prophecy. Tyrion is freed. Bran or Tyrion are made king with the Stark sisters as advisors / hands. Jon leaves to go back north to see Tormund and he finally gives Ghost a hug, thus completing his arc. The internet has a hissy fit for a year and then they finally get on with their lives. Two years later HBO release the trailer to one of their spin off shows and everyone loves Game of Thrones again. The end.
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Post by driftin on May 14, 2019 16:50:55 GMT
A lot of Internet Fanboys are moaning about Daenerys "turning" and saying it's ruined the show but surely it's been coming a long time. I think a lot of them are more upset at how inorganic and suddenly it happened rather than that it happened at all. It's what I didn't like about it. it came across as a woman having an extreme hissy fit about not being able to shag someone rather than some proper character development.
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Post by Inspector Norse on May 16, 2019 12:20:52 GMT
A lot of Internet Fanboys are moaning about Daenerys "turning" and saying it's ruined the show but surely it's been coming a long time. I think a lot of them are more upset at how inorganic and suddenly it happened rather than that it happened at all. It's what I didn't like about it. it came across as a woman having an extreme hissy fit about not being able to shag someone rather than some proper character development. I do think there's an argument that it - like most things in the last two series - was rushed, but at the same time how long can we reasonably expect the show to go on for? I think the story has been building to that ever since the start and it's just the final hurdle that was cleared a bit awkwardly.
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