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Nov 18, 2021 11:41:11 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 11:41:11 GMT
Dude.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Nov 18, 2021 11:44:00 GMT
How much is a subscription to VLAD Magazine, anyway?
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Nov 18, 2021 11:47:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 11:47:58 GMT
How much is a subscription to VLAD Magazine, anyway? It's free, delivered by the party to your door and available at supermarket checkouts.
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Nov 18, 2021 11:50:40 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 11:50:40 GMT
Dude.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 11:57:45 GMT
Boris the bear.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Nov 18, 2021 12:25:44 GMT
Look at the warp on that racket! I can't believe you lot elected a guy who doesn't use a racket press.
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Post by rayge on Nov 18, 2021 12:50:52 GMT
Look at the warp on that racket! I can't believe you lot elected a guy who doesn't use a racket press. He knows a lot about rackets and he owns most of the press
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Nov 20, 2021 8:38:45 GMT
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Post by osgood on Nov 20, 2021 8:38:45 GMT
Look at the warp on that racket! I can't believe you lot elected a guy who doesn't use a racket press. I can't believe they elected a guy who doesn't use a comb.
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Nov 20, 2021 14:07:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 14:07:52 GMT
Meanwhile in the UK ( not Russia) BBC News - Nadine Dorries: Culture secretary says social media has been hijacked
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 7:51:23 GMT
Generally sympathetic towards Putin and Russia, especially with regard to the western fake news re Trump and the Skripals, etc., but yesterday I was hiking up Mt. Takao (a popular hike) when I said hello to a foreigner who said he was from Russia. Talking and walking we seemed to agree that the corona situation was fucked up so I asked how it was in Russia. Not good he said, with vaccine mandates and passports and masks, much stricter than Japan is (today). Huh, I had thought Putin would be more Jimbo-ish on the matter but this guy said no. We soon parted at a way station (he may have been sick of my bullshit) but then I thought he was too rough on my boy Putin. Coincidentally, I get back home and dial up my favorite anti-corona narrative site and there is a new article, "Myth vs. reality in COVID Russia It’s time to part ways with the conscience-soothing fairytales", and sure enough, according to the article, Russia is as fucked or more than any place today. off-guardian.org/2021/11/16/myth-vs-reality-in-covid-russia/I find your romanticisation of Putin - a murderer and a dictator - quite offensive. He is scum.
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Nov 22, 2021 8:14:50 GMT
Post by jimbo on Nov 22, 2021 8:14:50 GMT
Generally sympathetic towards Putin and Russia, especially with regard to the western fake news re Trump and the Skripals, etc., but yesterday I was hiking up Mt. Takao (a popular hike) when I said hello to a foreigner who said he was from Russia. Talking and walking we seemed to agree that the corona situation was fucked up so I asked how it was in Russia. Not good he said, with vaccine mandates and passports and masks, much stricter than Japan is (today). Huh, I had thought Putin would be more Jimbo-ish on the matter but this guy said no. We soon parted at a way station (he may have been sick of my bullshit) but then I thought he was too rough on my boy Putin. Coincidentally, I get back home and dial up my favorite anti-corona narrative site and there is a new article, "Myth vs. reality in COVID Russia It’s time to part ways with the conscience-soothing fairytales", and sure enough, according to the article, Russia is as fucked or more than any place today. off-guardian.org/2021/11/16/myth-vs-reality-in-covid-russia/I find your romanticisation of Putin - a murderer and a dictator - quite offensive. He is scum. For example ... Come on. Name three things you don't like about Putin. Or three things he's done worse than what Bush Obama, Trump or Boris or Blair has done, then I won't think you are a hypocrite. Maybe I am ignorant of his record but overall I find he's led Russia pretty well with Russian people seemingly more fit, better off. more capitalistic, arguably freer than they were under Yeltsin and before. And if the US and its puppets didn't relentlessly single out Russia as an enemy, a bogeyman, a Goldstein - and then get shown up, exposed for doing so, but then shamelessly not giving a shit and coming up with more crap about RUSSIA!!! I probably wouldn't have an opinion about Putin at all. And if Russia's Covid rules are as strict as the guy said, according to some pundits, then Russia is in the same Great Reset gulag as are we all these terrible days. That means collusion with Russia, UK, US, Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, et al.
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Nov 22, 2021 8:23:47 GMT
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Post by oh oooh on Nov 22, 2021 8:23:47 GMT
Generally sympathetic towards Putin and Russia, especially with regard to the western fake news re Trump and the Skripals, etc., but yesterday I was hiking up Mt. Takao (a popular hike) when I said hello to a foreigner who said he was from Russia. Talking and walking we seemed to agree that the corona situation was fucked up so I asked how it was in Russia. Not good he said, with vaccine mandates and passports and masks, much stricter than Japan is (today). Huh, I had thought Putin would be more Jimbo-ish on the matter but this guy said no. We soon parted at a way station (he may have been sick of my bullshit) but then I thought he was too rough on my boy Putin. Coincidentally, I get back home and dial up my favorite anti-corona narrative site and there is a new article, "Myth vs. reality in COVID Russia It’s time to part ways with the conscience-soothing fairytales", and sure enough, according to the article, Russia is as fucked or more than any place today. off-guardian.org/2021/11/16/myth-vs-reality-in-covid-russia/I find your romanticisation of Putin - a murderer and a dictator - quite offensive. Toby does the same thing ('there's a lot to admire....strong leader....extremely intelligent'). It's bewildering
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Nov 22, 2021 8:28:53 GMT
Post by tory on Nov 22, 2021 8:28:53 GMT
That's the thing. If Russian people were very unhappy about Putin (and no doubt some are) then I think the accusations about him would carry far more weight.
But, on the whole, given that Russia has never had any culture of democracy, Putin is the least worst option. Whilst there is no doubt that his regime is highly sinister, he has stabilised a very dangerous country. Remember that Russia has around 10,000 nuclear warheads, most of which were a leftover from the Soviet era. If Russia had continued to collapse in the years after Yeltsin, when there were large numbers of mafioso and ultra-nationalist politicians in the mix, then the whole place could have turned into a proper wild west. You would have situations like Grozny, but far worse. Putin was quite brutal there, but it could be argued that otherwise it would have turned into another Afghanistan - a breeding ground for Islamic terrorism.
Putin has stabilised all that to a certain extent. Yes, he is not a democrat, but there is insufficient demand for democracy in Russia. Some people are used to and probably would prefer a certain level of stability rather than being "very free" and unstable. The Russians in general have a culture of strong man politicians and respect that. Russians are a very enigmatic people who do not conform to the expectations of the West, nor do they want to either.
The telling thing really is that people who are fed up of Russia just leave. And Putin is happy for them to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 8:32:35 GMT
I find your romanticisation of Putin - a murderer and a dictator - quite offensive. He is scum. For example ... Come on. Name three things you don't like about Putin. Or three things he's done worse than what Bush Obama, Trump or Boris or Blair has done, then I won't think you are a hypocrite. Maybe I am ignorant of his record but overall I find he's led Russia pretty well with Russian people seemingly more fit, better off. more capitalistic, arguably freer than they were under Yeltsin and before. And if the US and its puppets didn't relentlessly single out Russia as an enemy, a bogeyman, a Goldstein - and then get shown up, exposed for doing so, but then shamelessly not giving a shit and coming up with more crap about RUSSIA!!! I probably wouldn't have an opinion about Putin at all. And if Russia's Covid rules are as strict as the guy said, according to some pundits, then Russia is in the same Great Reset gulag as are we all these terrible days. That means collusion with Russia, UK, US, Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, et al. We've had this conversation before on BCB. Then I gave you quite a long list of people he had murdered - political opposition figures, journalists, dissidents - and you just dismissed it as if it were trivial. It was actually the post on BCB that turned me off you more than any other because it made me think you had no moral compass at all. So there really is no point in me repeating the same argument.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 8:45:21 GMT
That's the thing. If Russian people were very unhappy about Putin (and no doubt some are) then I think the accusations about him would carry far more weight. But, on the whole, given that Russia has never had any culture of democracy, Putin is the least worst option. Whilst there is no doubt that his regime is highly sinister, he has stabilised a very dangerous country. Remember that Russia has around 10,000 nuclear warheads, most of which were a leftover from the Soviet era. If Russia had continued to collapse in the years after Yeltsin, when there were large numbers of mafioso and ultra-nationalist politicians in the mix, then the whole place could have turned into a proper wild west. You would have situations like Grozny, but far worse. Putin was quite brutal there, but it could be argued that otherwise it would have turned into another Afghanistan - a breeding ground for Islamic terrorism. Putin has stabilised all that to a certain extent. Yes, he is not a democrat, but there is insufficient demand for democracy in Russia. Some people are used to and probably would prefer a certain level of stability rather than being "very free" and unstable. The Russians in general have a culture of strong man politicians and respect that. Russians are a very enigmatic people who do not conform to the expectations of the West, nor do they want to either. The telling thing really is that people who are fed up of Russia just leave. And Putin is happy for them to do so. He has, and continues to, brutally suppress any attempts at democracy and quash any opposition or critical voices. You have to be very brave indeed to oppose him because you are looking at torture and a long prison sentence...that's if you are lucky and he doesn't have you killed. Your attempts to turn his regime into some kind of ' realpolitik' parlour game are quite sickening to read frankly.
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